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    只看楼主 倒序阅读 楼主  发表于: 2011-06-21
    我现在在初学zemax的公差分析,找了一个双胶合透镜 c=<5DC&p  
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    然后添加了默认公差分析,基本没变 I2)#."=Ew  
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    然后运行分析的结果如下: ]SG(YrF  
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    Analysis of Tolerances tB<|7  
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    File : E:\光学设计资料\zemax练习\f500.ZMX O_^;wey0}?  
    Title: !T~C=,;  
    Date : TUE JUN 21 2011 5?-@}PL!Y  
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    Units are Millimeters. 1(jDBP!8  
    All changes are computed using linear differences. >=d%t6 %(  
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    Paraxial Focus compensation only. ?K= X[  
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    WARNING: Solves should be removed prior to tolerancing. 15CKcM6  
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    Mnemonics: -}9>#<v  
    TFRN: Tolerance on curvature in fringes. rf YFS96  
    TTHI: Tolerance on thickness. fl o9iifZ  
    TSDX: Tolerance on surface decentering in x. oE&#Tl?Vt  
    TSDY: Tolerance on surface decentering in y. +K7oyZg  
    TSTX: Tolerance on surface tilt in x (degrees). 0 ![  
    TSTY: Tolerance on surface tilt in y (degrees). %OAvhutS  
    TIRR: Tolerance on irregularity (fringes). eY8rm  
    TIND: Tolerance on Nd index of refraction. 3pjK`"Nmz\  
    TEDX: Tolerance on element decentering in x. y28 e=i  
    TEDY: Tolerance on element decentering in y. VTJxVYE  
    TETX: Tolerance on element tilt in x (degrees). l G $s(  
    TETY: Tolerance on element tilt in y (degrees). OpFm:j3  
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    WARNING: RAY AIMING IS OFF. Very loose tolerances may not be computed accurately. v-!^a_3Ui  
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    WARNING: Boundary constraints on compensators will be ignored. +|zcjI'=O  
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    Criterion           : Geometric MTF average S&T at 30.0000 cycles per mm r"&VG2c0K  
    Mode                : Sensitivities ws< (LH  
    Sampling            : 2 Wph@LRB]  
    Nominal Criterion   : 0.54403234 N~+ e\K6  
    Test Wavelength     : 0.6328 maVfLVx-  
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    Fields: XY Symmetric Angle in degrees >wf.C%  
    #      X-Field      Y-Field       Weight    VDX    VDY    VCX    VCY cc{^0JT  
    1   0.000E+000   0.000E+000   1.000E+000  0.000  0.000  0.000  0.000 `} S; _g!  
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    Sensitivity Analysis: pd}Cg'}X  
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                     |----------------- Minimum ----------------| |----------------- Maximum ----------------| PAS0 D #  
    Type                      Value      Criterion        Change          Value      Criterion        Change \JbOT%1  
    Fringe tolerance on surface 1 1`)e}p&  
    TFRN   1            -1.00000000     0.54257256    -0.00145977     1.00000000     0.54548607     0.00145374 ][1 iKT  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.000000                            0.000000 l#fwNM/F  
    Fringe tolerance on surface 2 '|@?R|i0  
    TFRN   2            -1.00000000     0.54177471    -0.00225762     1.00000000     0.54627463     0.00224230 >$G'=N:=X&  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 -^$`5Rk  
    Fringe tolerance on surface 3 \`Ow)t:  
    TFRN   3            -1.00000000     0.54779866     0.00376632     1.00000000     0.54022572    -0.00380662 Ft 6{g JBG  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.000000                            0.000000 q.!<GqSgb  
    Thickness tolerance on surface 1 DE!c+s_g4  
    TTHI   1   3        -0.20000000     0.54321462    -0.00081772     0.20000000     0.54484759     0.00081525 `%Dz 8Z  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 +jb<=ERV[  
    Thickness tolerance on surface 2 s5J?,xu  
    TTHI   2   3        -0.20000000     0.54478712     0.00075478     0.20000000     0.54327558    -0.00075675 ].HHTCD`c  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                           -0.000000 K(}g!iT)~  
    Decenter X tolerance on surfaces 1 through 3 W[t0hbV w  
    TEDX   1   3        -0.20000000     0.54401464   -1.7700E-005     0.20000000     0.54401464   -1.7700E-005 SSysOeD+  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 $d5}OI"g  
    Decenter Y tolerance on surfaces 1 through 3 v/x~L$[  
    TEDY   1   3        -0.20000000     0.54401464   -1.7700E-005     0.20000000     0.54401464   -1.7700E-005 HUalD3 \  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 Dy|)u1?  
    Tilt X tolerance on surfaces 1 through 3 (degrees) /&+*X)#v  
    TETX   1   3        -0.20000000     0.54897548     0.00494314     0.20000000     0.54897548     0.00494314 .qS(-7<  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 QE+HL8c^s  
    Tilt Y tolerance on surfaces 1 through 3 (degrees) SaFNPnk=  
    TETY   1   3        -0.20000000     0.54897548     0.00494314     0.20000000     0.54897548     0.00494314 1"f)\FPGe  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 I6Ga'5bV  
    Decenter X tolerance on surface 1 x Tf|u  
    TSDX   1            -0.20000000     0.53999563    -0.00403671     0.20000000     0.53999563    -0.00403671 RX?y}BDo0  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 .O6(QI*  
    Decenter Y tolerance on surface 1 fVz0H1\J&  
    TSDY   1            -0.20000000     0.53999563    -0.00403671     0.20000000     0.53999563    -0.00403671 *;[g Ga~  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 ^NXxMC( e+  
    Tilt X tolerance on surface (degrees) 1 M`p[ Zq  
    TSTX   1            -0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851     0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851 _B7+n"t\r  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 {ep.So6  
    Tilt Y tolerance on surface (degrees) 1 r<5i  
    TSTY   1            -0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851     0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851 p(. z#o#  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 dfT  
    Decenter X tolerance on surface 2 uU/'oZ?  
    TSDX   2            -0.20000000     0.51705427    -0.02697807     0.20000000     0.51705427    -0.02697807 -8Hv3J'=  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 #+L:V&QE  
    Decenter Y tolerance on surface 2 pvhN.z  
    TSDY   2            -0.20000000     0.51705427    -0.02697807     0.20000000     0.51705427    -0.02697807 }///k]_Sh  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 Xxr"Gc[  
    Tilt X tolerance on surface (degrees) 2 7gE/g`"#  
    TSTX   2            -0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324     0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324 EIF"{,m  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 nQ#NW8*Fs  
    Tilt Y tolerance on surface (degrees) 2 .4[M7)  
    TSTY   2            -0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324     0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324 wL[{6wL  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 Axw+zO  
    Decenter X tolerance on surface 3 ,j(S'Pw  
    TSDX   3            -0.20000000     0.53419039    -0.00984195     0.20000000     0.53419039    -0.00984195 @  \*Zq  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 6"yIk4u:  
    Decenter Y tolerance on surface 3 Yc^,Cj{OM  
    TSDY   3            -0.20000000     0.53419039    -0.00984195     0.20000000     0.53419039    -0.00984195 y wmC>`0p  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 /YHnt-}v,  
    Tilt X tolerance on surface (degrees) 3 z@[-+Q:  
    TSTX   3            -0.20000000     0.42861670    -0.11541563     0.20000000     0.42861670    -0.11541563 h-6x! 6pm  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 !q 9PO  
    Tilt Y tolerance on surface (degrees) 3 $0*D7P^8  
    TSTY   3            -0.20000000     0.42861670    -0.11541563     0.20000000     0.42861670    -0.11541563 7M<co,"  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 xu.TS  
    Irregularity of surface 1 in fringes `t>:i!s/  
    TIRR   1            -0.20000000     0.50973587    -0.03429647     0.20000000     0.57333868     0.02930634 L:7 kp<E  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 WHcw5_3#  
    Irregularity of surface 2 in fringes ]/7#[  
    TIRR   2            -0.20000000     0.53400904    -0.01002330     0.20000000     0.55360281     0.00957047 {_ {zs!r  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 H18pVh  
    Irregularity of surface 3 in fringes Dlg9PyQ  
    TIRR   3            -0.20000000     0.58078982     0.03675748     0.20000000     0.49904394    -0.04498840 R|[gEavFl  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 Ge1"+:tbJ  
    Index tolerance on surface 1 Hb\['VhzM  
    TIND   1            -0.00100000     0.52606778    -0.01796456     0.00100000     0.56121811     0.01718578 :"gu=u!  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 %7 $X *  
    Index tolerance on surface 2 OlM3G^1e1  
    TIND   2            -0.00100000     0.55639086     0.01235852     0.00100000     0.53126361    -0.01276872 [I,s:mn  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                           -0.000000 ^*b11 /7  
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    Worst offenders: T@d4NF#  
    Type                      Value      Criterion        Change wQYW5X  
    TSTY   2            -0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324 ]Xg7XY  
    TSTY   2             0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324 Iz8gZ:rd0  
    TSTX   2            -0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324 >dnDN3x  
    TSTX   2             0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324 '#>(JN5\  
    TSTY   1            -0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851 D!mx&O9  
    TSTY   1             0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851 ijmGk:L(  
    TSTX   1            -0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851 \5fvD8>H  
    TSTX   1             0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851 0E#?H0<OeG  
    TSTY   3            -0.20000000     0.42861670    -0.11541563 |a=7P  
    TSTY   3             0.20000000     0.42861670    -0.11541563 ;0-R"c)-  
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    Estimated Performance Changes based upon Root-Sum-Square method: RO| }WD)  
    Nominal MTF                 :     0.54403234 hfpis==  
    Estimated change            :    -0.36299231 W4=A.2[q  
    Estimated MTF               :     0.18104003 @zT2!C?^L  
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    Compensator Statistics: a~Yq0d?`D  
    Change in back focus: ~)*uJ wW/a  
    Minimum            :        -0.000000 ?N&s .  
    Maximum            :         0.000000 !ezy  v`  
    Mean               :        -0.000000 meZZQ:eSl  
    Standard Deviation :         0.000000 .gY=<bG/fA  
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    Monte Carlo Analysis: 8Yf=)  
    Number of trials: 20 z\>ZgRi~n  
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    Initial Statistics: Normal Distribution XO}SPf-  
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      Trial       Criterion        Change j+Q+.39s-~  
          1     0.42804416    -0.11598818 ,%U\@*6=  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.400171 cXK.^@du  
          2     0.54384387    -0.00018847 ]3uj~la  
    Change in Focus                :       1.018470 g#o9[su  
          3     0.44510003    -0.09893230 ,; n[_f  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.601922 Jt3*(+J>/  
          4     0.18154684    -0.36248550 :VE0eJ]J6  
    Change in Focus                :       0.920681 mt4X  
          5     0.28665820    -0.25737414 Z61L;E  
    Change in Focus                :       1.253875 f<>CSjQ4c  
          6     0.21263372    -0.33139862 sU/vXweky"  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.903878 R#!Urhh  
          7     0.40051424    -0.14351809 WQMoAPfqL  
    Change in Focus                :      -1.354815 fYlqaO4[  
          8     0.48754161    -0.05649072 T-Yb|@4  
    Change in Focus                :       0.215922 bd[iD?epD]  
          9     0.40357468    -0.14045766 b{;LbHq+G  
    Change in Focus                :       0.281783 2yVQqwQ m  
         10     0.26315315    -0.28087919 PoD/i@  
    Change in Focus                :      -1.048393 ;f /2u  
         11     0.26120585    -0.28282649 Zi<(>@z2  
    Change in Focus                :       1.017611 on 4 $n7  
         12     0.24033815    -0.30369419 )NO ,G  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.109292 dv?t;D@p!  
         13     0.37164046    -0.17239188 XI"IEwB  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.692430 z pg512\y  
         14     0.48597489    -0.05805744 M,we,!B0  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.662040 rVwW%&  
         15     0.21462327    -0.32940907 A @e!~  
    Change in Focus                :       1.611296 j|@8VxZ  
         16     0.43378226    -0.11025008 #I#_gjJkx  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.640081 @_?Uowc8  
         17     0.39321881    -0.15081353 @{ L|&Mk!  
    Change in Focus                :       0.914906 YTg8Zg-Z  
         18     0.20692530    -0.33710703 dRUmC H  
    Change in Focus                :       0.801607 k0 D):  
         19     0.51374068    -0.03029165 v!AfIcEV  
    Change in Focus                :       0.947293 ;8w CQ  
         20     0.38013374    -0.16389860 DPfN*a-P(  
    Change in Focus                :       0.667010 %yK- Q,'O  
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    Number of traceable Monte Carlo files generated: 20 eF?jNO3  
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    Nominal     0.54403234 B/B`=%~5_^  
    Best        0.54384387    Trial     2 -c#vWuLl  
    Worst       0.18154684    Trial     4 _~;K]  
    Mean        0.35770970 F(w<YU %6  
    Std Dev     0.11156454 cL4Xh|NBp  
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    Compensator Statistics: $5@[l5cJU;  
    Change in back focus: 0 > QqsQ  
    Minimum            :        -1.354815 zr wzI+4  
    Maximum            :         1.611296 10_>EY`  
    Mean               :         0.161872 RtEx WTc  
    Standard Deviation :         0.869664 <&HHo>rl  
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    90% >       0.20977951               f DPLB[  
    80% >       0.22748071               WA5.qw  
    50% >       0.38667627               [_*?~  
    20% >       0.46553746               tUGF8?& G  
    10% >       0.50064115                fn8|@)J  
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    这就有了些疑问,为什么我选择的补偿器是近轴焦点,而分析结果近轴焦点都不变化??应该是变得。另外最后的蒙特卡洛分析,只有10%的大于0.5(我用的是MTF作为评价方式),可是我设计的MTF如图 2B+qS'OT  
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    是大于0.6左右的,难道我按照这个默认的公差来加工的话,只有10%的才可能大于0.5?那太低了啊,请问这该怎么进行进一步处理。或者之前哪有问题 <slrzc_>&  
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    只看该作者 1楼 发表于: 2011-06-21
    我又试了试,原来是得根据上面的结果不断修改公差,放松或者变紧,然后在做公差分析,不断提高蒙特卡罗的结果。但是比如就拿我这个来说,理想是达到30lp处>0.6,那么实际做蒙特卡罗公差分析时,百分之多少以上的MTF是合格的呢?
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    90% >       0.20977951                 *hh9 K  
    80% >       0.22748071                 wM}AWmH  
    50% >       0.38667627                 i/ PL!'oq  
    20% >       0.46553746                 VFKFO9  
    10% >       0.50064115 z&\N^tBv  
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    最后这个数值是MTF值呢,还是MTF的公差? yi2F#o 'K  
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    也就是说,这到底是有90%的产品MTF大于0.20977951还是90%的产品的MTF变化量大于0.20977951???   X2{Aa T*M  
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    怎么没人啊,大家讨论讨论吗
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    没有人啊???
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    只看该作者 4楼 发表于: 2011-06-23
    引用第2楼sansummer于2011-06-22 08:56发表的  : 5i'KGL  
    90% >       0.20977951                 QBA{*@ A-  
    80% >       0.22748071                 Z7 ++c<|p  
    50% >       0.38667627                 v!=e]w6{  
    20% >       0.46553746                 S_s;foT  
    10% >       0.50064115 TN/&^/  
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    这些数值都是MTF值
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    Criterion           : Geometric MTF average S&T at 30.0000 cycles per mm   9e&*+ +vf  
    Mode                : Sensitivities |7.X)h`  
    Sampling            : 2 a;(,$q3M  
    Nominal Criterion   : 0.54403234 @@}muW>;T  
    Test Wavelength     : 0.6328 -*2b/=$u  
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    波长632.8nm 时 mtf 是 0.54403234  没达到0.6
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    谢谢。您说的“波长632.8nm 时 mtf 是 0.54403234  没达到0.6”这是一个评价标准吧? Eb8z`@p  
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    这个评价标准和我理想的设计结果的0.6有什么联系吗,另外这个 0.54403234  是这么来的?
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    你试试把原来的系统波长改成632.8nm,看看Geometric MTF    30 per mm 的mtf值是不是0.54403234
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    啊...这倒也是。换了波长的确可能有所变化。另外还有就是如果现在百分比太低,我是否应该考虑把最敏感的公差再紧一些,就会好了?
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    恩,多多尝试