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    只看楼主 倒序阅读 楼主  发表于: 2011-06-21
    我现在在初学zemax的公差分析,找了一个双胶合透镜 QH]G>+LI5  
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    然后添加了默认公差分析,基本没变 |OarE2  
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    然后运行分析的结果如下: 8F(Vd99I  
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    Analysis of Tolerances zh6 0b{  
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    File : E:\光学设计资料\zemax练习\f500.ZMX Hi5}s  
    Title: W%,h{  
    Date : TUE JUN 21 2011 E!SxO~  
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    Units are Millimeters. RX6s[uQ  
    All changes are computed using linear differences. _ giZ'&l!  
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    Paraxial Focus compensation only. )Co&(;zf  
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    WARNING: Solves should be removed prior to tolerancing. 66jL2XU<  
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    Mnemonics: Fmo^ ?~b  
    TFRN: Tolerance on curvature in fringes. z($h7TZ$  
    TTHI: Tolerance on thickness. zmdu\:_X9  
    TSDX: Tolerance on surface decentering in x. ,lUr[xzV  
    TSDY: Tolerance on surface decentering in y. xTV3U9 v  
    TSTX: Tolerance on surface tilt in x (degrees). [:xpz,  
    TSTY: Tolerance on surface tilt in y (degrees). b$O1I[o  
    TIRR: Tolerance on irregularity (fringes). GDBxciv  
    TIND: Tolerance on Nd index of refraction. 2 ,bLEhu  
    TEDX: Tolerance on element decentering in x. s>+,u7EV  
    TEDY: Tolerance on element decentering in y. ek9Y9eJ"  
    TETX: Tolerance on element tilt in x (degrees). DuzJQ Sv  
    TETY: Tolerance on element tilt in y (degrees). aNxq_pRb  
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    WARNING: RAY AIMING IS OFF. Very loose tolerances may not be computed accurately. \&#pJBBG  
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    WARNING: Boundary constraints on compensators will be ignored. 530Z>q  
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    Criterion           : Geometric MTF average S&T at 30.0000 cycles per mm ?Gr2@,jlD  
    Mode                : Sensitivities k6|wiSyu  
    Sampling            : 2 5$;#=WAY  
    Nominal Criterion   : 0.54403234 f.X<Mo   
    Test Wavelength     : 0.6328 gxf{/EjH  
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    Fields: XY Symmetric Angle in degrees (I7s[  
    #      X-Field      Y-Field       Weight    VDX    VDY    VCX    VCY t;2\(_A  
    1   0.000E+000   0.000E+000   1.000E+000  0.000  0.000  0.000  0.000 fAHf}j  
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    Sensitivity Analysis: OqNtTk+  
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                     |----------------- Minimum ----------------| |----------------- Maximum ----------------| z3+7gp+I;  
    Type                      Value      Criterion        Change          Value      Criterion        Change m.0: R  
    Fringe tolerance on surface 1 Tu*"+*r>s  
    TFRN   1            -1.00000000     0.54257256    -0.00145977     1.00000000     0.54548607     0.00145374 hNWZ1r~_  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.000000                            0.000000 \cKY{(E  
    Fringe tolerance on surface 2 {=)g?!zC  
    TFRN   2            -1.00000000     0.54177471    -0.00225762     1.00000000     0.54627463     0.00224230 ICxj$b  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 !\RBOdw C  
    Fringe tolerance on surface 3 +#Q\;; FNP  
    TFRN   3            -1.00000000     0.54779866     0.00376632     1.00000000     0.54022572    -0.00380662 {!G  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.000000                            0.000000 5:W 5@e{  
    Thickness tolerance on surface 1 ugT;NB  
    TTHI   1   3        -0.20000000     0.54321462    -0.00081772     0.20000000     0.54484759     0.00081525 8kA2.pIk  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 8a}et8df:  
    Thickness tolerance on surface 2 B>=NE.ulUL  
    TTHI   2   3        -0.20000000     0.54478712     0.00075478     0.20000000     0.54327558    -0.00075675 -Nn@c|fz  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                           -0.000000 Z&w/JP?  
    Decenter X tolerance on surfaces 1 through 3 Yfotq9.=+  
    TEDX   1   3        -0.20000000     0.54401464   -1.7700E-005     0.20000000     0.54401464   -1.7700E-005 QgZ`~  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 _RI!Z   
    Decenter Y tolerance on surfaces 1 through 3 A\IQM^i  
    TEDY   1   3        -0.20000000     0.54401464   -1.7700E-005     0.20000000     0.54401464   -1.7700E-005 r iuG,$EX  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 Rx\.x? &  
    Tilt X tolerance on surfaces 1 through 3 (degrees) l%^VBv> 2  
    TETX   1   3        -0.20000000     0.54897548     0.00494314     0.20000000     0.54897548     0.00494314 d=J$H<  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 g.9:R=JPT  
    Tilt Y tolerance on surfaces 1 through 3 (degrees) Nu]& ?  
    TETY   1   3        -0.20000000     0.54897548     0.00494314     0.20000000     0.54897548     0.00494314 BXx0Z %e.3  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 R<-u`uX nP  
    Decenter X tolerance on surface 1 #MwNyZ  
    TSDX   1            -0.20000000     0.53999563    -0.00403671     0.20000000     0.53999563    -0.00403671 4x;vn8 yh  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 `Fn6*_n  
    Decenter Y tolerance on surface 1 G{C27k>wa  
    TSDY   1            -0.20000000     0.53999563    -0.00403671     0.20000000     0.53999563    -0.00403671 czH`a=mjH  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 Y  c]  
    Tilt X tolerance on surface (degrees) 1 .>A`FqV$~+  
    TSTX   1            -0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851     0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851 k_$9cVA  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 ]u\K}n6[q  
    Tilt Y tolerance on surface (degrees) 1 1>wQ&{  
    TSTY   1            -0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851     0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851 ;3 |Z}P  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 H)u<$y!8  
    Decenter X tolerance on surface 2 pD )$O}  
    TSDX   2            -0.20000000     0.51705427    -0.02697807     0.20000000     0.51705427    -0.02697807 V_.n G;  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 /-_<RQ  
    Decenter Y tolerance on surface 2 {TV6eV  
    TSDY   2            -0.20000000     0.51705427    -0.02697807     0.20000000     0.51705427    -0.02697807 XX])B%*  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 Ait3KIJ9  
    Tilt X tolerance on surface (degrees) 2 _ U%fD|t  
    TSTX   2            -0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324     0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324 g*uo2-MN&e  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 'c")]{  
    Tilt Y tolerance on surface (degrees) 2 L4wKG&  
    TSTY   2            -0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324     0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324 ~ R:=zGDV  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 4Z"JC9As  
    Decenter X tolerance on surface 3 3$E\B=7/U  
    TSDX   3            -0.20000000     0.53419039    -0.00984195     0.20000000     0.53419039    -0.00984195 )C0dN>Gb  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 p~h)@  
    Decenter Y tolerance on surface 3 afJ`1l  
    TSDY   3            -0.20000000     0.53419039    -0.00984195     0.20000000     0.53419039    -0.00984195 iCK p"(kf  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 Ry+Ax4#+(y  
    Tilt X tolerance on surface (degrees) 3 NE'4atQ|  
    TSTX   3            -0.20000000     0.42861670    -0.11541563     0.20000000     0.42861670    -0.11541563 w)u6J ,  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 equTKM  
    Tilt Y tolerance on surface (degrees) 3 sp VE'"^  
    TSTY   3            -0.20000000     0.42861670    -0.11541563     0.20000000     0.42861670    -0.11541563 F_ Cp,  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 2G4OK7x  
    Irregularity of surface 1 in fringes >gqd y*Bg  
    TIRR   1            -0.20000000     0.50973587    -0.03429647     0.20000000     0.57333868     0.02930634 7j <:hF~  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 /6$8djw  
    Irregularity of surface 2 in fringes ZV?~~_ 9  
    TIRR   2            -0.20000000     0.53400904    -0.01002330     0.20000000     0.55360281     0.00957047 uBPxMwohR  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 9)Jc'd|  
    Irregularity of surface 3 in fringes JkiMrpkuk  
    TIRR   3            -0.20000000     0.58078982     0.03675748     0.20000000     0.49904394    -0.04498840 zURob MpE#  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 ^9g+\W  
    Index tolerance on surface 1 VXpbmg!{S  
    TIND   1            -0.00100000     0.52606778    -0.01796456     0.00100000     0.56121811     0.01718578 R>05MhA+  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 [nBdq"K  
    Index tolerance on surface 2 qxR7;/@j)  
    TIND   2            -0.00100000     0.55639086     0.01235852     0.00100000     0.53126361    -0.01276872 p%_m!   
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                           -0.000000 g'F{;Ur  
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    Worst offenders: %^r}$mfy:0  
    Type                      Value      Criterion        Change G31??L:<  
    TSTY   2            -0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324 #t^y$9^  
    TSTY   2             0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324 PN$vBFjm  
    TSTX   2            -0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324 tBZ&h` V  
    TSTX   2             0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324 4IW7^Pq`P  
    TSTY   1            -0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851 :Ur=}@Dj  
    TSTY   1             0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851 m)]A$*`<  
    TSTX   1            -0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851 @7C?]/8#  
    TSTX   1             0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851 QnWM<6xK"  
    TSTY   3            -0.20000000     0.42861670    -0.11541563 }.uB6&!:  
    TSTY   3             0.20000000     0.42861670    -0.11541563 RH=Tu6i  
    ) ag8]   
    Estimated Performance Changes based upon Root-Sum-Square method: ) Apg  
    Nominal MTF                 :     0.54403234 @y#QHJ.j  
    Estimated change            :    -0.36299231 .7!n%Ks  
    Estimated MTF               :     0.18104003 Ot]Y/;K  
    ?-"%%#  
    Compensator Statistics: C#y[UM5\k;  
    Change in back focus: LHt{y3l]  
    Minimum            :        -0.000000 eTV%+  
    Maximum            :         0.000000 r dc} e"v  
    Mean               :        -0.000000 /Ww_fY  
    Standard Deviation :         0.000000 ]T3dZ`-(  
    j70]2NgX  
    Monte Carlo Analysis: /p=9"?  
    Number of trials: 20 6+:Tv2  
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    Initial Statistics: Normal Distribution _Gpq=(q)  
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      Trial       Criterion        Change tPT\uD#t  
          1     0.42804416    -0.11598818 @Gs*y1  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.400171 X>n\@rTo  
          2     0.54384387    -0.00018847 =-ky%3:`@  
    Change in Focus                :       1.018470 T@n-^B!Xq  
          3     0.44510003    -0.09893230 &*I\~;1  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.601922 F^ m`j6  
          4     0.18154684    -0.36248550 Al^n&Aa+\  
    Change in Focus                :       0.920681 $uA?c& e  
          5     0.28665820    -0.25737414 q+MV@8w  
    Change in Focus                :       1.253875 PgKA>50a  
          6     0.21263372    -0.33139862 P(_wT:8C?  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.903878 kp4*|$]  
          7     0.40051424    -0.14351809 5aF03+ko  
    Change in Focus                :      -1.354815 4{:W5eT!/  
          8     0.48754161    -0.05649072 5$r`e+Nf'  
    Change in Focus                :       0.215922 -XVC,.Ly  
          9     0.40357468    -0.14045766 AnbY<&OC1  
    Change in Focus                :       0.281783 B%v2)+?@  
         10     0.26315315    -0.28087919 3~e"CKD>  
    Change in Focus                :      -1.048393 <p48?+K9  
         11     0.26120585    -0.28282649 [e2sUO0~r  
    Change in Focus                :       1.017611 p< fKj  
         12     0.24033815    -0.30369419 @quNVx(y  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.109292 2V}tDN7c  
         13     0.37164046    -0.17239188 O7#ECUH  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.692430 &&0,;r, -)  
         14     0.48597489    -0.05805744 Xd_86q8o  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.662040  [69[Ct  
         15     0.21462327    -0.32940907 C043h?x  
    Change in Focus                :       1.611296 :*bmc/c  
         16     0.43378226    -0.11025008 *E<%db C2  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.640081 YfC1.8  
         17     0.39321881    -0.15081353 $XFiH~GI  
    Change in Focus                :       0.914906 {Gnji] v  
         18     0.20692530    -0.33710703 |kvom 4T  
    Change in Focus                :       0.801607 [)}F4Jsz%  
         19     0.51374068    -0.03029165 Hno:"k?  
    Change in Focus                :       0.947293 O a_2J#~$  
         20     0.38013374    -0.16389860 (k9{&mPJ  
    Change in Focus                :       0.667010 6V=69}  
    q$EicH}k8  
    Number of traceable Monte Carlo files generated: 20 Epm\ =s  
    *P_ 3A:_  
    Nominal     0.54403234 6i/x"vl>  
    Best        0.54384387    Trial     2 h+k:G9;sS  
    Worst       0.18154684    Trial     4 x+zz:^yHYf  
    Mean        0.35770970 T}(J`{ 9i  
    Std Dev     0.11156454 N|c;Qzl  
    @[0zZX2EE  
    tBgB>-h(  
    Compensator Statistics: ,?GEL>F  
    Change in back focus: i,R<`K0  
    Minimum            :        -1.354815 I_mnXd;n  
    Maximum            :         1.611296 ylF%6!V}4V  
    Mean               :         0.161872 -LL49P6  
    Standard Deviation :         0.869664 VnUW UIVJ  
    =6b^j]1  
    90% >       0.20977951               ^[}^+  
    80% >       0.22748071               <d,Qi.G4  
    50% >       0.38667627               i]8HzKuiW  
    20% >       0.46553746               c>~"Z-VtX  
    10% >       0.50064115                dxkq*  
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    End of Run. A-\OB Nh  
    B&&:A4  
    这就有了些疑问,为什么我选择的补偿器是近轴焦点,而分析结果近轴焦点都不变化??应该是变得。另外最后的蒙特卡洛分析,只有10%的大于0.5(我用的是MTF作为评价方式),可是我设计的MTF如图  Hu|;cbK  
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    是大于0.6左右的,难道我按照这个默认的公差来加工的话,只有10%的才可能大于0.5?那太低了啊,请问这该怎么进行进一步处理。或者之前哪有问题 5v4 ,YHD  
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    只看该作者 1楼 发表于: 2011-06-21
    我又试了试,原来是得根据上面的结果不断修改公差,放松或者变紧,然后在做公差分析,不断提高蒙特卡罗的结果。但是比如就拿我这个来说,理想是达到30lp处>0.6,那么实际做蒙特卡罗公差分析时,百分之多少以上的MTF是合格的呢?
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    90% >       0.20977951                 m[6?v;w  
    80% >       0.22748071                 v0)I rO  
    50% >       0.38667627                 $eUI.j(HU  
    20% >       0.46553746                 2TB>d+  
    10% >       0.50064115 pEf1[ zq  
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    最后这个数值是MTF值呢,还是MTF的公差? Vvk1 D(  
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    也就是说,这到底是有90%的产品MTF大于0.20977951还是90%的产品的MTF变化量大于0.20977951???   bK:mt`  
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    怎么没人啊,大家讨论讨论吗
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    没有人啊???
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    引用第2楼sansummer于2011-06-22 08:56发表的  : 4v[Zhf4JM  
    90% >       0.20977951                 @J~hi\&`  
    80% >       0.22748071                 vca]yK<u  
    50% >       0.38667627                 C?OqS+  
    20% >       0.46553746                 -!Ov{GHr0  
    10% >       0.50064115 _z6_mmMp  
    ....... +g.lLb*#  
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    这些数值都是MTF值
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    Criterion           : Geometric MTF average S&T at 30.0000 cycles per mm   UiE 1TD{  
    Mode                : Sensitivities [H4)p ,R  
    Sampling            : 2 Y'&rSHI"  
    Nominal Criterion   : 0.54403234 cPp<+ ts  
    Test Wavelength     : 0.6328 qT153dNA&  
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    波长632.8nm 时 mtf 是 0.54403234  没达到0.6
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    谢谢。您说的“波长632.8nm 时 mtf 是 0.54403234  没达到0.6”这是一个评价标准吧? [sc4ULS &  
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    这个评价标准和我理想的设计结果的0.6有什么联系吗,另外这个 0.54403234  是这么来的?
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    你试试把原来的系统波长改成632.8nm,看看Geometric MTF    30 per mm 的mtf值是不是0.54403234
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    啊...这倒也是。换了波长的确可能有所变化。另外还有就是如果现在百分比太低,我是否应该考虑把最敏感的公差再紧一些,就会好了?
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    恩,多多尝试