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    只看楼主 倒序阅读 楼主  发表于: 2011-06-21
    我现在在初学zemax的公差分析,找了一个双胶合透镜 AY|8wf,LS  
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    然后添加了默认公差分析,基本没变 Ks9"U^bPs  
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    然后运行分析的结果如下: [+>$'Du  
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    Analysis of Tolerances N\ GBjr-d  
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    File : E:\光学设计资料\zemax练习\f500.ZMX !P#lTyz  
    Title: RIb< 7  
    Date : TUE JUN 21 2011 ;nSaZ$`5  
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    Units are Millimeters. v5 $"v?PT  
    All changes are computed using linear differences. @ttcFX1:W  
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    Paraxial Focus compensation only. JFl@{6c  
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    WARNING: Solves should be removed prior to tolerancing. sj Yg  
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    Mnemonics: RG#  
    TFRN: Tolerance on curvature in fringes. )7[>/2aGd  
    TTHI: Tolerance on thickness. o^7}H{AE  
    TSDX: Tolerance on surface decentering in x. x~A""*B~  
    TSDY: Tolerance on surface decentering in y. 2'_Oi-&  
    TSTX: Tolerance on surface tilt in x (degrees). \MX>=  
    TSTY: Tolerance on surface tilt in y (degrees). ^MDBJ0 I.  
    TIRR: Tolerance on irregularity (fringes). ;./Tv84I^  
    TIND: Tolerance on Nd index of refraction. 19&!#z  
    TEDX: Tolerance on element decentering in x. |OuZaCJG  
    TEDY: Tolerance on element decentering in y. !j( v-pQf"  
    TETX: Tolerance on element tilt in x (degrees). H&`p9d*(e  
    TETY: Tolerance on element tilt in y (degrees). Nl PP|=o  
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    WARNING: RAY AIMING IS OFF. Very loose tolerances may not be computed accurately. \Qz>us=G  
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    WARNING: Boundary constraints on compensators will be ignored. 'I*F(4x  
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    Criterion           : Geometric MTF average S&T at 30.0000 cycles per mm Y#3m|b45n  
    Mode                : Sensitivities ] QtGgWtC  
    Sampling            : 2 ${0Xq k  
    Nominal Criterion   : 0.54403234 UYGl  
    Test Wavelength     : 0.6328 Xq+7l5LP  
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    Fields: XY Symmetric Angle in degrees |&h!#Q{7l  
    #      X-Field      Y-Field       Weight    VDX    VDY    VCX    VCY pB h [F5  
    1   0.000E+000   0.000E+000   1.000E+000  0.000  0.000  0.000  0.000 1K4LEg a`  
    #](ML:!  
    Sensitivity Analysis: u;J9aKD  
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                     |----------------- Minimum ----------------| |----------------- Maximum ----------------| ;m@>v?zE  
    Type                      Value      Criterion        Change          Value      Criterion        Change L&q~5 9  
    Fringe tolerance on surface 1 YtxBkKiJ2V  
    TFRN   1            -1.00000000     0.54257256    -0.00145977     1.00000000     0.54548607     0.00145374 hFs0qPVY  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.000000                            0.000000 ~+V]MT  
    Fringe tolerance on surface 2 nS]/=xP{  
    TFRN   2            -1.00000000     0.54177471    -0.00225762     1.00000000     0.54627463     0.00224230 Uw<Lt"ls.  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 82efqzT  
    Fringe tolerance on surface 3 M'R^?Jjb  
    TFRN   3            -1.00000000     0.54779866     0.00376632     1.00000000     0.54022572    -0.00380662 "JbFbcj  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.000000                            0.000000 N y7VIh|  
    Thickness tolerance on surface 1 IeZ}`$[H  
    TTHI   1   3        -0.20000000     0.54321462    -0.00081772     0.20000000     0.54484759     0.00081525 m -7^$  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 K;gm^  
    Thickness tolerance on surface 2 [&3G `8hY  
    TTHI   2   3        -0.20000000     0.54478712     0.00075478     0.20000000     0.54327558    -0.00075675 laKMQLtv  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                           -0.000000 _f{'&YhUU  
    Decenter X tolerance on surfaces 1 through 3 ?)5}v4b  
    TEDX   1   3        -0.20000000     0.54401464   -1.7700E-005     0.20000000     0.54401464   -1.7700E-005 %ktU 51o  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 nu4GK}xI  
    Decenter Y tolerance on surfaces 1 through 3 I^0bEwqZ~  
    TEDY   1   3        -0.20000000     0.54401464   -1.7700E-005     0.20000000     0.54401464   -1.7700E-005 rS{Rzs^@  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 /p?h@6h@y  
    Tilt X tolerance on surfaces 1 through 3 (degrees) YdhrFw0`~r  
    TETX   1   3        -0.20000000     0.54897548     0.00494314     0.20000000     0.54897548     0.00494314 @fPiGu`L  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 xBR2tDi%  
    Tilt Y tolerance on surfaces 1 through 3 (degrees) 8!S="_  
    TETY   1   3        -0.20000000     0.54897548     0.00494314     0.20000000     0.54897548     0.00494314 #oJ9BgDry  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 +twJHf_U  
    Decenter X tolerance on surface 1 ;'p X1T  
    TSDX   1            -0.20000000     0.53999563    -0.00403671     0.20000000     0.53999563    -0.00403671 d+[hB4!l2  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 +q1 @8  
    Decenter Y tolerance on surface 1 ) l0=j b  
    TSDY   1            -0.20000000     0.53999563    -0.00403671     0.20000000     0.53999563    -0.00403671 M I/ 9?B  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 \E]s]ft;+  
    Tilt X tolerance on surface (degrees) 1 \CX`PZ><  
    TSTX   1            -0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851     0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851 Gk'J'9*  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 !@p@u;djJ  
    Tilt Y tolerance on surface (degrees) 1 @1^iWM j  
    TSTY   1            -0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851     0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851 [[LCEw  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 #eR*|W7o  
    Decenter X tolerance on surface 2 8&3+=<U  
    TSDX   2            -0.20000000     0.51705427    -0.02697807     0.20000000     0.51705427    -0.02697807 ~^KemwogPN  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 /J wQ5  
    Decenter Y tolerance on surface 2 [;h@ q}  
    TSDY   2            -0.20000000     0.51705427    -0.02697807     0.20000000     0.51705427    -0.02697807 ~,m6g&>R  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 'FO^VJ;ha  
    Tilt X tolerance on surface (degrees) 2 e nDjP  
    TSTX   2            -0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324     0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324 "&77`R  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 Q~te`  
    Tilt Y tolerance on surface (degrees) 2 ERCW5b[RT  
    TSTY   2            -0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324     0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324 k%VV(P]sT  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 CQ"5bnR  
    Decenter X tolerance on surface 3 f.,S-1D]h  
    TSDX   3            -0.20000000     0.53419039    -0.00984195     0.20000000     0.53419039    -0.00984195 Q<wrO  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 83OOM;'  
    Decenter Y tolerance on surface 3 3' mQ=tKa  
    TSDY   3            -0.20000000     0.53419039    -0.00984195     0.20000000     0.53419039    -0.00984195 $l7 <j_C  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 xBl}=M?Qu  
    Tilt X tolerance on surface (degrees) 3 {[NBTT9&  
    TSTX   3            -0.20000000     0.42861670    -0.11541563     0.20000000     0.42861670    -0.11541563 mst-:F[h  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 Z  r  
    Tilt Y tolerance on surface (degrees) 3 gM^ Hs7o,  
    TSTY   3            -0.20000000     0.42861670    -0.11541563     0.20000000     0.42861670    -0.11541563 }gGcYRT  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 sMs 0*B-[  
    Irregularity of surface 1 in fringes M,3sK!`>  
    TIRR   1            -0.20000000     0.50973587    -0.03429647     0.20000000     0.57333868     0.02930634 P9SyQbcK  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 zxT&K|  
    Irregularity of surface 2 in fringes D-69/3PvP  
    TIRR   2            -0.20000000     0.53400904    -0.01002330     0.20000000     0.55360281     0.00957047 cK1r9ED|  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 `G@]\)-!  
    Irregularity of surface 3 in fringes ?2aglj*"v,  
    TIRR   3            -0.20000000     0.58078982     0.03675748     0.20000000     0.49904394    -0.04498840 at/besW  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 Vj2]-]Cm  
    Index tolerance on surface 1 @m<xpe l  
    TIND   1            -0.00100000     0.52606778    -0.01796456     0.00100000     0.56121811     0.01718578 qI5_@[S*  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 !QSL8v@c  
    Index tolerance on surface 2 =M*31>"I0  
    TIND   2            -0.00100000     0.55639086     0.01235852     0.00100000     0.53126361    -0.01276872 FI Io{ru  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                           -0.000000 1<Qb"FN!2  
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    Worst offenders: d+\o>x|Y!Y  
    Type                      Value      Criterion        Change [yW0U:m  
    TSTY   2            -0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324 VNp[J'a>VZ  
    TSTY   2             0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324 r@%-S!$  
    TSTX   2            -0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324 Nw/4z$].J  
    TSTX   2             0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324 u?&P6|J&  
    TSTY   1            -0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851 l> W?XH  
    TSTY   1             0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851 F $^RM3  
    TSTX   1            -0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851 p>Qzz`@e  
    TSTX   1             0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851 T9}G:6  
    TSTY   3            -0.20000000     0.42861670    -0.11541563 sV%<U-X  
    TSTY   3             0.20000000     0.42861670    -0.11541563 p?>(y  
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    Estimated Performance Changes based upon Root-Sum-Square method: &&nvv&a  
    Nominal MTF                 :     0.54403234 ~*79rDs{  
    Estimated change            :    -0.36299231 pW2NrBq@w  
    Estimated MTF               :     0.18104003 !NuiVC]  
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    Compensator Statistics: h-].?X,]Q  
    Change in back focus: ;xS@-</:  
    Minimum            :        -0.000000 &z+nNkr?yN  
    Maximum            :         0.000000 *GH` u*C_  
    Mean               :        -0.000000 w/IYQC\v  
    Standard Deviation :         0.000000 SDwTGQ/0  
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    Monte Carlo Analysis: anxg D?<+B  
    Number of trials: 20 FAX|.!US*p  
    =8?y$WE  
    Initial Statistics: Normal Distribution ;6KcX\g-  
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      Trial       Criterion        Change 3CL/9C>  
          1     0.42804416    -0.11598818 iyKAw   
    Change in Focus                :      -0.400171 ZVs]_`(+  
          2     0.54384387    -0.00018847 ;|}N\[fk%]  
    Change in Focus                :       1.018470 c @7d4Jz  
          3     0.44510003    -0.09893230 NvW`x   
    Change in Focus                :      -0.601922 zkt`7Pg;J  
          4     0.18154684    -0.36248550 Z$LWZg  
    Change in Focus                :       0.920681 Yd'Fhvo8  
          5     0.28665820    -0.25737414 t~]n"zgovz  
    Change in Focus                :       1.253875 =(2y$,6g?  
          6     0.21263372    -0.33139862 (H5nz':  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.903878 LeRyS]  
          7     0.40051424    -0.14351809 f>!)y-7  
    Change in Focus                :      -1.354815 6?$yBu9l  
          8     0.48754161    -0.05649072  DA]<30 w  
    Change in Focus                :       0.215922 Ne#FBRu5  
          9     0.40357468    -0.14045766 `?f6~$1  
    Change in Focus                :       0.281783 : fMQ,S0  
         10     0.26315315    -0.28087919 nWb*u  
    Change in Focus                :      -1.048393 .);~H#  
         11     0.26120585    -0.28282649 =1sGT;>  
    Change in Focus                :       1.017611 8?LsV<  
         12     0.24033815    -0.30369419 i^T@jg+K  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.109292 \kWL:uU  
         13     0.37164046    -0.17239188 K)b@,/5  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.692430 C# zYZ JZ  
         14     0.48597489    -0.05805744 |ecK~+  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.662040 qW+'#Jh@TV  
         15     0.21462327    -0.32940907 4PK/8^@7)>  
    Change in Focus                :       1.611296 yC\dM1X  
         16     0.43378226    -0.11025008 V6Z~#=EQ  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.640081 Q\Wh]=}  
         17     0.39321881    -0.15081353 `(tVwX4  
    Change in Focus                :       0.914906 ?#s9@R1  
         18     0.20692530    -0.33710703 b3.  
    Change in Focus                :       0.801607 6`Hd)T5{w  
         19     0.51374068    -0.03029165 *$e1Bv6 $  
    Change in Focus                :       0.947293 Ig&H0S  
         20     0.38013374    -0.16389860 k_;g-r,  
    Change in Focus                :       0.667010 ]gjQy.c|  
    @}; vl  
    Number of traceable Monte Carlo files generated: 20 E? lK(C  
    TrCut 2  
    Nominal     0.54403234 de=){.7Y  
    Best        0.54384387    Trial     2 zUuOX5-6x  
    Worst       0.18154684    Trial     4 d?:KEi-<7  
    Mean        0.35770970 `PY=B$?{4  
    Std Dev     0.11156454 :1asY:)vNP  
    LV2#w_^I  
    RN^<bt{_U  
    Compensator Statistics: =csh=V@s  
    Change in back focus: ^?M# |>  
    Minimum            :        -1.354815 (aC~0 #4  
    Maximum            :         1.611296 B]2m(0Y>>v  
    Mean               :         0.161872 |$|B0mj  
    Standard Deviation :         0.869664 f/7on| bv  
    t=nZ1GZyM  
    90% >       0.20977951               cMs8D  
    80% >       0.22748071               e5AZU7%.  
    50% >       0.38667627               G&Fe2&5!w  
    20% >       0.46553746               B4@1WZn<8  
    10% >       0.50064115                bG)EZ  
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    End of Run. } ~NM\rm  
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    这就有了些疑问,为什么我选择的补偿器是近轴焦点,而分析结果近轴焦点都不变化??应该是变得。另外最后的蒙特卡洛分析,只有10%的大于0.5(我用的是MTF作为评价方式),可是我设计的MTF如图 FEH+ PKSc  
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    是大于0.6左右的,难道我按照这个默认的公差来加工的话,只有10%的才可能大于0.5?那太低了啊,请问这该怎么进行进一步处理。或者之前哪有问题 C'~E q3  
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    只看该作者 1楼 发表于: 2011-06-21
    我又试了试,原来是得根据上面的结果不断修改公差,放松或者变紧,然后在做公差分析,不断提高蒙特卡罗的结果。但是比如就拿我这个来说,理想是达到30lp处>0.6,那么实际做蒙特卡罗公差分析时,百分之多少以上的MTF是合格的呢?
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    90% >       0.20977951                 b@S~ =  
    80% >       0.22748071                 [Kg3:]2A  
    50% >       0.38667627                 uZTbJ3$$  
    20% >       0.46553746                 XU<XK9EA  
    10% >       0.50064115 @Q7^caG  
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    最后这个数值是MTF值呢,还是MTF的公差? ]eUD3WUe>q  
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    也就是说,这到底是有90%的产品MTF大于0.20977951还是90%的产品的MTF变化量大于0.20977951???   N\"Hf=Y(~  
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    怎么没人啊,大家讨论讨论吗
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    没有人啊???
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    只看该作者 4楼 发表于: 2011-06-23
    引用第2楼sansummer于2011-06-22 08:56发表的  : 8QMMKO ui\  
    90% >       0.20977951                 elR1NhB|p  
    80% >       0.22748071                 ,gW$m~\  
    50% >       0.38667627                 cuI&Q?+c}  
    20% >       0.46553746                 =jA.INin4  
    10% >       0.50064115 C8do8$  
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    这些数值都是MTF值
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    Criterion           : Geometric MTF average S&T at 30.0000 cycles per mm   zsj]WP6 j  
    Mode                : Sensitivities )iVuac]E++  
    Sampling            : 2 gv&Hu$ ca  
    Nominal Criterion   : 0.54403234 s'd\"WaQV  
    Test Wavelength     : 0.6328 ~]Av$S  
    /XA*:8~!  
    波长632.8nm 时 mtf 是 0.54403234  没达到0.6
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    谢谢。您说的“波长632.8nm 时 mtf 是 0.54403234  没达到0.6”这是一个评价标准吧? a1ps'^Qhh  
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    这个评价标准和我理想的设计结果的0.6有什么联系吗,另外这个 0.54403234  是这么来的?
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    你试试把原来的系统波长改成632.8nm,看看Geometric MTF    30 per mm 的mtf值是不是0.54403234
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    啊...这倒也是。换了波长的确可能有所变化。另外还有就是如果现在百分比太低,我是否应该考虑把最敏感的公差再紧一些,就会好了?
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    恩,多多尝试