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    我现在在初学zemax的公差分析,找了一个双胶合透镜 azCod1aL{  
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    然后添加了默认公差分析,基本没变 lK2=[%,~  
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    然后运行分析的结果如下: +YFAZv7`  
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    Analysis of Tolerances $p)e.ZMgE  
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    File : E:\光学设计资料\zemax练习\f500.ZMX ZQ)vvD<  
    Title: c`agrS:P  
    Date : TUE JUN 21 2011 ']__V[  
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    Units are Millimeters. |e+r|i]  
    All changes are computed using linear differences. 9Z^\b)x  
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    Paraxial Focus compensation only. >V$ S\"  
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    WARNING: Solves should be removed prior to tolerancing. tm|YUat$]r  
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    Mnemonics: %c-T Gr,  
    TFRN: Tolerance on curvature in fringes. 6=3;(2u[C"  
    TTHI: Tolerance on thickness. Bgf'Hm% r  
    TSDX: Tolerance on surface decentering in x. PZYVLUw `  
    TSDY: Tolerance on surface decentering in y. c*DBa]u2  
    TSTX: Tolerance on surface tilt in x (degrees). >ca w :  
    TSTY: Tolerance on surface tilt in y (degrees). QTmMj@R&(  
    TIRR: Tolerance on irregularity (fringes). ?Hrj}K27  
    TIND: Tolerance on Nd index of refraction. DWXHx  
    TEDX: Tolerance on element decentering in x. 3T)_(SM"  
    TEDY: Tolerance on element decentering in y. UPGS/Xs]1  
    TETX: Tolerance on element tilt in x (degrees). M=t;t0  
    TETY: Tolerance on element tilt in y (degrees). <HXzcWQ$  
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    WARNING: RAY AIMING IS OFF. Very loose tolerances may not be computed accurately. r=cm(AHF  
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    WARNING: Boundary constraints on compensators will be ignored. `s|^  
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    Criterion           : Geometric MTF average S&T at 30.0000 cycles per mm >mUSRf4  
    Mode                : Sensitivities n>L24rL  
    Sampling            : 2 SpA-E/el  
    Nominal Criterion   : 0.54403234 J_}Rsp ED  
    Test Wavelength     : 0.6328 ?atHZLF  
    w%uM=YmuT  
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    Fields: XY Symmetric Angle in degrees Mq Q'Kjo  
    #      X-Field      Y-Field       Weight    VDX    VDY    VCX    VCY 2"pFAQBw~i  
    1   0.000E+000   0.000E+000   1.000E+000  0.000  0.000  0.000  0.000 ,UATT]>  
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    Sensitivity Analysis: 8\BYm|%aa  
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                     |----------------- Minimum ----------------| |----------------- Maximum ----------------| rL23^}+^`  
    Type                      Value      Criterion        Change          Value      Criterion        Change V[^ +lR  
    Fringe tolerance on surface 1 T_I ApC  
    TFRN   1            -1.00000000     0.54257256    -0.00145977     1.00000000     0.54548607     0.00145374 5XF&yYWq  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.000000                            0.000000 #%{x*y:Ms  
    Fringe tolerance on surface 2 P,*yuF|bk  
    TFRN   2            -1.00000000     0.54177471    -0.00225762     1.00000000     0.54627463     0.00224230 w1:%P36H  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 !D~\uW1b  
    Fringe tolerance on surface 3 ,#8H9<O9t  
    TFRN   3            -1.00000000     0.54779866     0.00376632     1.00000000     0.54022572    -0.00380662 ( yv)zg9  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.000000                            0.000000 jm&PGZ#n=R  
    Thickness tolerance on surface 1 :S=!]la0h  
    TTHI   1   3        -0.20000000     0.54321462    -0.00081772     0.20000000     0.54484759     0.00081525 q!whWA  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 CQh6;[\:  
    Thickness tolerance on surface 2 TFYp=xK(  
    TTHI   2   3        -0.20000000     0.54478712     0.00075478     0.20000000     0.54327558    -0.00075675 a'|/=$  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                           -0.000000 &]jCoBj+_  
    Decenter X tolerance on surfaces 1 through 3 -5u. Ix3  
    TEDX   1   3        -0.20000000     0.54401464   -1.7700E-005     0.20000000     0.54401464   -1.7700E-005 'da$i  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 ds:&{~7L<T  
    Decenter Y tolerance on surfaces 1 through 3 ]~kgsI[E  
    TEDY   1   3        -0.20000000     0.54401464   -1.7700E-005     0.20000000     0.54401464   -1.7700E-005 M <c cfU!  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 d'!abnF[d  
    Tilt X tolerance on surfaces 1 through 3 (degrees) rPkPQn:  
    TETX   1   3        -0.20000000     0.54897548     0.00494314     0.20000000     0.54897548     0.00494314 a8cX {6  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 6'\VPjt  
    Tilt Y tolerance on surfaces 1 through 3 (degrees) ,.TwM;w=  
    TETY   1   3        -0.20000000     0.54897548     0.00494314     0.20000000     0.54897548     0.00494314 {PS|q?  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 I!Uj~jV  
    Decenter X tolerance on surface 1 P.'$L\  
    TSDX   1            -0.20000000     0.53999563    -0.00403671     0.20000000     0.53999563    -0.00403671 @i=_y+|d_  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 {9|S,<9  
    Decenter Y tolerance on surface 1 )O$T; U  
    TSDY   1            -0.20000000     0.53999563    -0.00403671     0.20000000     0.53999563    -0.00403671 ^y2}C$1V  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 '=1@,Skj-  
    Tilt X tolerance on surface (degrees) 1 n~'cKy )m  
    TSTX   1            -0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851     0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851 *# ;  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 an,JV0  
    Tilt Y tolerance on surface (degrees) 1 qd@Fb*  
    TSTY   1            -0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851     0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851 7da~+(yhr  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 =:(<lKf,<F  
    Decenter X tolerance on surface 2 (F'?c1  
    TSDX   2            -0.20000000     0.51705427    -0.02697807     0.20000000     0.51705427    -0.02697807 .( X!*J]G  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 -|( q 9B  
    Decenter Y tolerance on surface 2 Qo])A6$IU  
    TSDY   2            -0.20000000     0.51705427    -0.02697807     0.20000000     0.51705427    -0.02697807 9}#9i^%}  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 GpGq' 8|(  
    Tilt X tolerance on surface (degrees) 2 BBHoD:l  
    TSTX   2            -0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324     0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324 G ;  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 2hFOwI  
    Tilt Y tolerance on surface (degrees) 2 y0\=F  
    TSTY   2            -0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324     0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324 L,* #  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 !y7w~UVs  
    Decenter X tolerance on surface 3 Z8q*XpUH  
    TSDX   3            -0.20000000     0.53419039    -0.00984195     0.20000000     0.53419039    -0.00984195 #r;uM+  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 *@[N~:z/  
    Decenter Y tolerance on surface 3 ({9P, D~2  
    TSDY   3            -0.20000000     0.53419039    -0.00984195     0.20000000     0.53419039    -0.00984195 7&*d]#&~j  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 S@6 :H"  
    Tilt X tolerance on surface (degrees) 3 u!9bhL`  
    TSTX   3            -0.20000000     0.42861670    -0.11541563     0.20000000     0.42861670    -0.11541563 7!('+x(>  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 eZ;DNZK av  
    Tilt Y tolerance on surface (degrees) 3 #}aBRKZ f6  
    TSTY   3            -0.20000000     0.42861670    -0.11541563     0.20000000     0.42861670    -0.11541563 A}z1~Z+  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 K?X 6@u|h  
    Irregularity of surface 1 in fringes W24n%Ps  
    TIRR   1            -0.20000000     0.50973587    -0.03429647     0.20000000     0.57333868     0.02930634 X DAwE  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 SS"Z>talw  
    Irregularity of surface 2 in fringes ErY-`8U"  
    TIRR   2            -0.20000000     0.53400904    -0.01002330     0.20000000     0.55360281     0.00957047 D}L4uz?  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 CV7%ud]E  
    Irregularity of surface 3 in fringes (m& ''yaH  
    TIRR   3            -0.20000000     0.58078982     0.03675748     0.20000000     0.49904394    -0.04498840 -r@/8"  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 <hzuPi@  
    Index tolerance on surface 1 , \R,O  
    TIND   1            -0.00100000     0.52606778    -0.01796456     0.00100000     0.56121811     0.01718578 HFTDea+#  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 T[]kun  
    Index tolerance on surface 2 *[0)]|r  
    TIND   2            -0.00100000     0.55639086     0.01235852     0.00100000     0.53126361    -0.01276872 H <ugc  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                           -0.000000 xD4G(]d!  
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    Worst offenders: HQtUNtZ  
    Type                      Value      Criterion        Change YV"LM6`  
    TSTY   2            -0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324 %LBT:Aw  
    TSTY   2             0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324 ?&se]\  
    TSTX   2            -0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324 l527>7 eT  
    TSTX   2             0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324 0/0rWqg /  
    TSTY   1            -0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851  9Li.B1j  
    TSTY   1             0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851 62{[)jt{  
    TSTX   1            -0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851 W!4xE  
    TSTX   1             0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851 l$eKV(CZ4  
    TSTY   3            -0.20000000     0.42861670    -0.11541563 31n|ScXv  
    TSTY   3             0.20000000     0.42861670    -0.11541563 &{(8EvuDd  
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    Estimated Performance Changes based upon Root-Sum-Square method: "U%jG`q  
    Nominal MTF                 :     0.54403234 ybgAyJ{J<  
    Estimated change            :    -0.36299231 Cd51. Sk(l  
    Estimated MTF               :     0.18104003 2Ik@L,  
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    Compensator Statistics: NzuH&o][  
    Change in back focus: |4u?Q+k%%  
    Minimum            :        -0.000000 %QKRl 5RM-  
    Maximum            :         0.000000 FAP1Bm  
    Mean               :        -0.000000 Rhil]|a/  
    Standard Deviation :         0.000000 Mv^G%zg2  
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    Monte Carlo Analysis: +yYSp8>  
    Number of trials: 20 1$a dX  
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    Initial Statistics: Normal Distribution {uuvgFC  
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      Trial       Criterion        Change txW<r8  
          1     0.42804416    -0.11598818 {glRX R  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.400171 kFF)6z:2  
          2     0.54384387    -0.00018847 ^7&0P m  
    Change in Focus                :       1.018470 HOY9{>E}z  
          3     0.44510003    -0.09893230 t(F] -[  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.601922 kN,WB  
          4     0.18154684    -0.36248550 13:0%IO  
    Change in Focus                :       0.920681 MX#MDA-4  
          5     0.28665820    -0.25737414 $>mTPNF  
    Change in Focus                :       1.253875 /o=,\kM  
          6     0.21263372    -0.33139862 4yu ^cix(  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.903878 hV4\#K[  
          7     0.40051424    -0.14351809 a,U@ !}K  
    Change in Focus                :      -1.354815 9QryW\6.@z  
          8     0.48754161    -0.05649072 xr\wOQ*`  
    Change in Focus                :       0.215922 W!G2$e6  
          9     0.40357468    -0.14045766 Ood'kAH1B  
    Change in Focus                :       0.281783 Ug|o ($CY  
         10     0.26315315    -0.28087919 <r{ )*]#l  
    Change in Focus                :      -1.048393 >f*[U/{ K  
         11     0.26120585    -0.28282649 =2=n   
    Change in Focus                :       1.017611 2 !^[x~t  
         12     0.24033815    -0.30369419 'hM?J*m  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.109292 uKZe"wN;  
         13     0.37164046    -0.17239188 );.q:"  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.692430 H21\6 GY  
         14     0.48597489    -0.05805744 +T@a/(Gl  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.662040 n/3gx4.g  
         15     0.21462327    -0.32940907 gB?~!J?  
    Change in Focus                :       1.611296 n|oAfJUk,  
         16     0.43378226    -0.11025008 2W=( {e)$  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.640081 6!}tmdzR  
         17     0.39321881    -0.15081353 kFG>Km(y}  
    Change in Focus                :       0.914906 2eBA&t  
         18     0.20692530    -0.33710703 -\`n{$OR  
    Change in Focus                :       0.801607 $I7/FZP  
         19     0.51374068    -0.03029165 YJ`[$0mam  
    Change in Focus                :       0.947293 S)0bu(a`Z,  
         20     0.38013374    -0.16389860 syYg, G[  
    Change in Focus                :       0.667010 <4W"ne28  
    m$xyUv1  
    Number of traceable Monte Carlo files generated: 20 dsP1Zq  
    %8T:rS  
    Nominal     0.54403234 :I5]|pt  
    Best        0.54384387    Trial     2 d/GP.d  
    Worst       0.18154684    Trial     4 e_wz8]K)n  
    Mean        0.35770970 xi=qap=S^9  
    Std Dev     0.11156454 eYurg6Ob~  
    X"W%(x`w  
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    Compensator Statistics: .d5|Fs~B  
    Change in back focus: 9_rNJLj8y  
    Minimum            :        -1.354815 Y'n TyH  
    Maximum            :         1.611296 <)zh2UI  
    Mean               :         0.161872 h@72eav3+  
    Standard Deviation :         0.869664 ?'K}bmdt}.  
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    90% >       0.20977951               l|Zw Zix  
    80% >       0.22748071               ZbYwuyHk(3  
    50% >       0.38667627               2k[i7Rl \c  
    20% >       0.46553746               \>j._#t$h  
    10% >       0.50064115                | %af}# FQ  
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    End of Run. S zOB{  
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    这就有了些疑问,为什么我选择的补偿器是近轴焦点,而分析结果近轴焦点都不变化??应该是变得。另外最后的蒙特卡洛分析,只有10%的大于0.5(我用的是MTF作为评价方式),可是我设计的MTF如图 AjaG .fa]k  
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    是大于0.6左右的,难道我按照这个默认的公差来加工的话,只有10%的才可能大于0.5?那太低了啊,请问这该怎么进行进一步处理。或者之前哪有问题 JBa=R^k  
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    只看该作者 1楼 发表于: 2011-06-21
    我又试了试,原来是得根据上面的结果不断修改公差,放松或者变紧,然后在做公差分析,不断提高蒙特卡罗的结果。但是比如就拿我这个来说,理想是达到30lp处>0.6,那么实际做蒙特卡罗公差分析时,百分之多少以上的MTF是合格的呢?
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    90% >       0.20977951                 TeG5|`t],  
    80% >       0.22748071                 X'ryfa1|  
    50% >       0.38667627                 +|Xx=1_?BK  
    20% >       0.46553746                 d/- f]   
    10% >       0.50064115 Eti;(>"@  
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    最后这个数值是MTF值呢,还是MTF的公差? r_ I7Gd  
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    也就是说,这到底是有90%的产品MTF大于0.20977951还是90%的产品的MTF变化量大于0.20977951???   3yDa5q{  
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    怎么没人啊,大家讨论讨论吗
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    没有人啊???
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    引用第2楼sansummer于2011-06-22 08:56发表的  : PzWhB* iBR  
    90% >       0.20977951                 0hn N>?  
    80% >       0.22748071                 `6)GjZh^  
    50% >       0.38667627                 \ty{KAc&  
    20% >       0.46553746                 uwXquOw  
    10% >       0.50064115 C,P>7  
    ....... 3E$M{l  
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    这些数值都是MTF值
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    Criterion           : Geometric MTF average S&T at 30.0000 cycles per mm   fb3(9  
    Mode                : Sensitivities [nZf4KN  
    Sampling            : 2 FNL[6.!PV  
    Nominal Criterion   : 0.54403234 T2<?4^xN  
    Test Wavelength     : 0.6328 1O]'iS"  
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    波长632.8nm 时 mtf 是 0.54403234  没达到0.6
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    谢谢。您说的“波长632.8nm 时 mtf 是 0.54403234  没达到0.6”这是一个评价标准吧? sQUJ]h  
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    这个评价标准和我理想的设计结果的0.6有什么联系吗,另外这个 0.54403234  是这么来的?
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    你试试把原来的系统波长改成632.8nm,看看Geometric MTF    30 per mm 的mtf值是不是0.54403234
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    啊...这倒也是。换了波长的确可能有所变化。另外还有就是如果现在百分比太低,我是否应该考虑把最敏感的公差再紧一些,就会好了?
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    恩,多多尝试