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    只看楼主 倒序阅读 楼主  发表于: 2011-06-21
    我现在在初学zemax的公差分析,找了一个双胶合透镜 NuEcTww  
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    然后添加了默认公差分析,基本没变 d?6\  
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    然后运行分析的结果如下: eeVzOq(  
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    Analysis of Tolerances %(}%#-X  
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    File : E:\光学设计资料\zemax练习\f500.ZMX +T8h jOkC  
    Title: )x& 4 Q=  
    Date : TUE JUN 21 2011 (F+]h]KSi  
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    Units are Millimeters. ,DIr&5>p2  
    All changes are computed using linear differences. KFhnv`a.0  
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    Paraxial Focus compensation only. `Lj'2LoER  
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    WARNING: Solves should be removed prior to tolerancing. "2_nN]%u-  
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    Mnemonics: 0Qr|!B:+9)  
    TFRN: Tolerance on curvature in fringes. /Z1>3=G by  
    TTHI: Tolerance on thickness. O*lMIWx  
    TSDX: Tolerance on surface decentering in x. VJbn/5+P  
    TSDY: Tolerance on surface decentering in y. f\u5=!kjN  
    TSTX: Tolerance on surface tilt in x (degrees). Yu+;vjbK-  
    TSTY: Tolerance on surface tilt in y (degrees). cv7.=*Kb;  
    TIRR: Tolerance on irregularity (fringes). /P[@o  
    TIND: Tolerance on Nd index of refraction. dUc?>#TU  
    TEDX: Tolerance on element decentering in x. WR zIK09@  
    TEDY: Tolerance on element decentering in y. } $oZZKS  
    TETX: Tolerance on element tilt in x (degrees). R^VmNj  
    TETY: Tolerance on element tilt in y (degrees). LZ4Z]!V  
    uB;PaZ G?{  
    WARNING: RAY AIMING IS OFF. Very loose tolerances may not be computed accurately. wDt9Lf O  
    ?WBA:?=$58  
    WARNING: Boundary constraints on compensators will be ignored. z^Y4:^L~I  
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    Criterion           : Geometric MTF average S&T at 30.0000 cycles per mm fX/k;0l  
    Mode                : Sensitivities NOQSLT=  
    Sampling            : 2 +5N09$f;R  
    Nominal Criterion   : 0.54403234 5e >qBw8t  
    Test Wavelength     : 0.6328 A3A"^f$$  
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    Fields: XY Symmetric Angle in degrees +i(;@% kv  
    #      X-Field      Y-Field       Weight    VDX    VDY    VCX    VCY OE(!^"5?[  
    1   0.000E+000   0.000E+000   1.000E+000  0.000  0.000  0.000  0.000 uuf+M-P  
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    Sensitivity Analysis: KY9&Ky+2B  
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                     |----------------- Minimum ----------------| |----------------- Maximum ----------------| yL"pzD`[H  
    Type                      Value      Criterion        Change          Value      Criterion        Change ,K8(D<{  
    Fringe tolerance on surface 1 yr q){W  
    TFRN   1            -1.00000000     0.54257256    -0.00145977     1.00000000     0.54548607     0.00145374 Nrfj[I  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.000000                            0.000000 !3Ed0h]Bfa  
    Fringe tolerance on surface 2 +7$zL;ph=n  
    TFRN   2            -1.00000000     0.54177471    -0.00225762     1.00000000     0.54627463     0.00224230 [' cq  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 Qe4"a*l-r  
    Fringe tolerance on surface 3 1J[|Ow  
    TFRN   3            -1.00000000     0.54779866     0.00376632     1.00000000     0.54022572    -0.00380662 0 ChdFf7  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.000000                            0.000000 |YK4V(5x  
    Thickness tolerance on surface 1 [8rl{~9E  
    TTHI   1   3        -0.20000000     0.54321462    -0.00081772     0.20000000     0.54484759     0.00081525 (6~~e$j  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 l3;MjNB^V  
    Thickness tolerance on surface 2 DtOL=m]s  
    TTHI   2   3        -0.20000000     0.54478712     0.00075478     0.20000000     0.54327558    -0.00075675 B$&&'i%  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                           -0.000000 (7?jjH^4  
    Decenter X tolerance on surfaces 1 through 3 '/Ag3R  
    TEDX   1   3        -0.20000000     0.54401464   -1.7700E-005     0.20000000     0.54401464   -1.7700E-005 BV512+M  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 5}he)2*uD  
    Decenter Y tolerance on surfaces 1 through 3 vw/X  
    TEDY   1   3        -0.20000000     0.54401464   -1.7700E-005     0.20000000     0.54401464   -1.7700E-005 6dQ]=];  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 WG(%Pkowv  
    Tilt X tolerance on surfaces 1 through 3 (degrees) "bk'#?9  
    TETX   1   3        -0.20000000     0.54897548     0.00494314     0.20000000     0.54897548     0.00494314 MP%pEUomev  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 U(u$5  
    Tilt Y tolerance on surfaces 1 through 3 (degrees) YRs32vVz  
    TETY   1   3        -0.20000000     0.54897548     0.00494314     0.20000000     0.54897548     0.00494314 ,]8$QFf  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 M,/{53  
    Decenter X tolerance on surface 1 g9oY K  
    TSDX   1            -0.20000000     0.53999563    -0.00403671     0.20000000     0.53999563    -0.00403671 <o.?T*Q9  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 ZX03FJL7u  
    Decenter Y tolerance on surface 1 Hsi<!g.  
    TSDY   1            -0.20000000     0.53999563    -0.00403671     0.20000000     0.53999563    -0.00403671 J<=k [Q  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 q+}Er*r  
    Tilt X tolerance on surface (degrees) 1 BuIly&qbm<  
    TSTX   1            -0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851     0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851 /;\{zA$uC=  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 Mg}8 3kS  
    Tilt Y tolerance on surface (degrees) 1 SVc5mS|up  
    TSTY   1            -0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851     0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851 &0QtHcXpR  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 \`$RY')9|!  
    Decenter X tolerance on surface 2 268H!'!\  
    TSDX   2            -0.20000000     0.51705427    -0.02697807     0.20000000     0.51705427    -0.02697807 +/Q ?<*[  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 GUqhm$6a  
    Decenter Y tolerance on surface 2 t ]yD95|  
    TSDY   2            -0.20000000     0.51705427    -0.02697807     0.20000000     0.51705427    -0.02697807 Lr}>Md  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 I]OVzM  
    Tilt X tolerance on surface (degrees) 2 oiY&O]}  
    TSTX   2            -0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324     0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324 \ 4r?=5v*  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 #pm0T1+jW  
    Tilt Y tolerance on surface (degrees) 2 _ZD8/?2QV  
    TSTY   2            -0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324     0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324 N&'05uWY}  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 Rr0@F`"R  
    Decenter X tolerance on surface 3 rS/}!|uAu  
    TSDX   3            -0.20000000     0.53419039    -0.00984195     0.20000000     0.53419039    -0.00984195 4:S?m(ah/  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 gNoQ[xFx32  
    Decenter Y tolerance on surface 3 i9%cpPrg8  
    TSDY   3            -0.20000000     0.53419039    -0.00984195     0.20000000     0.53419039    -0.00984195 %juR6zB%8  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 5v@-.p  
    Tilt X tolerance on surface (degrees) 3 K=`;D  
    TSTX   3            -0.20000000     0.42861670    -0.11541563     0.20000000     0.42861670    -0.11541563 $pO gFA1'  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 4fp]z9Y  
    Tilt Y tolerance on surface (degrees) 3 -g;cg7O#(  
    TSTY   3            -0.20000000     0.42861670    -0.11541563     0.20000000     0.42861670    -0.11541563 t@1 bu$y  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 K@UQ O  
    Irregularity of surface 1 in fringes -Bl !s^-'  
    TIRR   1            -0.20000000     0.50973587    -0.03429647     0.20000000     0.57333868     0.02930634 @|c fFT W  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 C0bOPn  
    Irregularity of surface 2 in fringes }co*%F{1  
    TIRR   2            -0.20000000     0.53400904    -0.01002330     0.20000000     0.55360281     0.00957047 Z<,$Xv L  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 erC)2{m  
    Irregularity of surface 3 in fringes ILQB%0!  
    TIRR   3            -0.20000000     0.58078982     0.03675748     0.20000000     0.49904394    -0.04498840 |{G GATni  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 D ^~G(m;-  
    Index tolerance on surface 1 861!p%y5  
    TIND   1            -0.00100000     0.52606778    -0.01796456     0.00100000     0.56121811     0.01718578 `43X? yQ  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 #& 5}  
    Index tolerance on surface 2 S`qa_yI)Ed  
    TIND   2            -0.00100000     0.55639086     0.01235852     0.00100000     0.53126361    -0.01276872 jg7 WMH"`  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                           -0.000000 NLLLt  
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    Worst offenders: P b(XR+  
    Type                      Value      Criterion        Change #~Z55 D_  
    TSTY   2            -0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324 D<35FD,  
    TSTY   2             0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324 _poe{@h!  
    TSTX   2            -0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324 =]auP{AlE  
    TSTX   2             0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324 =/b WS,=  
    TSTY   1            -0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851 pDg_^|  
    TSTY   1             0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851 ]$VYzE2e  
    TSTX   1            -0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851 \~#$$Q-qtU  
    TSTX   1             0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851 foOwJ}JU  
    TSTY   3            -0.20000000     0.42861670    -0.11541563 :{ }]$+|)\  
    TSTY   3             0.20000000     0.42861670    -0.11541563 [ 4_JK  
    7oK7f=*Q  
    Estimated Performance Changes based upon Root-Sum-Square method: ;GgW&*|  
    Nominal MTF                 :     0.54403234 wCwJ#-z.=  
    Estimated change            :    -0.36299231 @@O=a  
    Estimated MTF               :     0.18104003 m<DiYxK  
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    Compensator Statistics: *yx&4)Or  
    Change in back focus: ~baVS-v  
    Minimum            :        -0.000000 M,ObzgW  
    Maximum            :         0.000000 wLDWD,"K  
    Mean               :        -0.000000 79?%g=#=  
    Standard Deviation :         0.000000 )TmqE<[  
    [9:'v@Ph  
    Monte Carlo Analysis: @DYxDap{  
    Number of trials: 20 FccT@ ,.F  
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    Initial Statistics: Normal Distribution jBTXs5q  
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      Trial       Criterion        Change nS53mLU)  
          1     0.42804416    -0.11598818 i"h '^6M1  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.400171 y$]gmg  
          2     0.54384387    -0.00018847 "0nT:!BZ  
    Change in Focus                :       1.018470 @Y~R*^n"}  
          3     0.44510003    -0.09893230 ,EAf/2C  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.601922 &@c?5Ie5  
          4     0.18154684    -0.36248550 JVoW*uA  
    Change in Focus                :       0.920681 }[[  
          5     0.28665820    -0.25737414 _ 2WG6y;  
    Change in Focus                :       1.253875 qNLG-m,n<  
          6     0.21263372    -0.33139862 C{i9~80n  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.903878 $ON4 nx  
          7     0.40051424    -0.14351809 Vu%XoI)<KY  
    Change in Focus                :      -1.354815 $ylQ \Y'  
          8     0.48754161    -0.05649072 HywT  
    Change in Focus                :       0.215922 :N826_q  
          9     0.40357468    -0.14045766 k k&8:;Vj  
    Change in Focus                :       0.281783 _:: q S!  
         10     0.26315315    -0.28087919 1|?8g2Vf  
    Change in Focus                :      -1.048393 aX oD{zA  
         11     0.26120585    -0.28282649 >d`XR"_e  
    Change in Focus                :       1.017611 yU-^w^4  
         12     0.24033815    -0.30369419 )w{bT]   
    Change in Focus                :      -0.109292 !s>AVV$;0  
         13     0.37164046    -0.17239188 Nn"[GB  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.692430 BVKr 2v  
         14     0.48597489    -0.05805744 COE,pb17  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.662040 MWsjkI`  
         15     0.21462327    -0.32940907 fkprTk^#  
    Change in Focus                :       1.611296 ,&DK*LT8U  
         16     0.43378226    -0.11025008 0Cox+QJt  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.640081 re\@v8w~  
         17     0.39321881    -0.15081353 hmA$gR_  
    Change in Focus                :       0.914906 )JO#Z(  
         18     0.20692530    -0.33710703 19Cs 3B\4  
    Change in Focus                :       0.801607 3'd(=hJ45$  
         19     0.51374068    -0.03029165 >@NH Al  
    Change in Focus                :       0.947293 g> lJZD@  
         20     0.38013374    -0.16389860 c)d*[OI8  
    Change in Focus                :       0.667010 jRswGMx  
    cTA8F"UGD  
    Number of traceable Monte Carlo files generated: 20 WIytgM  
    Wc}opp  
    Nominal     0.54403234 ")/TbT Vu  
    Best        0.54384387    Trial     2 4G:I VK9  
    Worst       0.18154684    Trial     4 0_}^IiG  
    Mean        0.35770970 }Yi)r*LI3  
    Std Dev     0.11156454 IETdL{`~  
    GM.2bA(y  
    H-?wEMi)*u  
    Compensator Statistics: \hjGw,d  
    Change in back focus: @%4MFc0`!  
    Minimum            :        -1.354815 x=+R0ny  
    Maximum            :         1.611296 p^2"g~  
    Mean               :         0.161872 Fq{Z-yVp  
    Standard Deviation :         0.869664 CaX0Jlk*  
    Xx;RH9YYz  
    90% >       0.20977951               4Xna}7  
    80% >       0.22748071               i|'M'^3r  
    50% >       0.38667627               (nhv#&Fd+  
    20% >       0.46553746               OL,3Jh% x  
    10% >       0.50064115                G2FP|mf,  
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    End of Run. Sm(QgZO[4  
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    这就有了些疑问,为什么我选择的补偿器是近轴焦点,而分析结果近轴焦点都不变化??应该是变得。另外最后的蒙特卡洛分析,只有10%的大于0.5(我用的是MTF作为评价方式),可是我设计的MTF如图 traJub  
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    是大于0.6左右的,难道我按照这个默认的公差来加工的话,只有10%的才可能大于0.5?那太低了啊,请问这该怎么进行进一步处理。或者之前哪有问题 E,Q>jH  
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    只看该作者 1楼 发表于: 2011-06-21
    我又试了试,原来是得根据上面的结果不断修改公差,放松或者变紧,然后在做公差分析,不断提高蒙特卡罗的结果。但是比如就拿我这个来说,理想是达到30lp处>0.6,那么实际做蒙特卡罗公差分析时,百分之多少以上的MTF是合格的呢?
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    90% >       0.20977951                 9wP_dJvb  
    80% >       0.22748071                 2e}${NZN  
    50% >       0.38667627                 ~L!*p0dS^  
    20% >       0.46553746                 Lm<"W_  
    10% >       0.50064115 j(|G) F  
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    最后这个数值是MTF值呢,还是MTF的公差? NiU}A$U  
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    也就是说,这到底是有90%的产品MTF大于0.20977951还是90%的产品的MTF变化量大于0.20977951???   X{rw+!  
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    怎么没人啊,大家讨论讨论吗
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    没有人啊???
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    引用第2楼sansummer于2011-06-22 08:56发表的  : ?D-1xnxep  
    90% >       0.20977951                 i`/_^Fndyu  
    80% >       0.22748071                 :@)UI,  
    50% >       0.38667627                 /e :V44  
    20% >       0.46553746                 $Z6g/bD`E  
    10% >       0.50064115 py.lGywb_  
    ....... )z-)S  
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    这些数值都是MTF值
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    Criterion           : Geometric MTF average S&T at 30.0000 cycles per mm   j#QJ5(#  
    Mode                : Sensitivities c*2 U'A  
    Sampling            : 2 {Q],rv|;  
    Nominal Criterion   : 0.54403234 C(zgBk  
    Test Wavelength     : 0.6328 |U{9Yy6p  
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    波长632.8nm 时 mtf 是 0.54403234  没达到0.6
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    谢谢。您说的“波长632.8nm 时 mtf 是 0.54403234  没达到0.6”这是一个评价标准吧? (:9yeP1  
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    这个评价标准和我理想的设计结果的0.6有什么联系吗,另外这个 0.54403234  是这么来的?
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    你试试把原来的系统波长改成632.8nm,看看Geometric MTF    30 per mm 的mtf值是不是0.54403234
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    只看该作者 8楼 发表于: 2011-06-24
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    啊...这倒也是。换了波长的确可能有所变化。另外还有就是如果现在百分比太低,我是否应该考虑把最敏感的公差再紧一些,就会好了?
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    恩,多多尝试