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sansummer 2011-06-21 13:48

公差分析结果的疑问

我现在在初学zemax的公差分析,找了一个双胶合透镜 Z!q2F%02FO  
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然后添加了默认公差分析,基本没变 4d{"S02h  
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然后运行分析的结果如下: clPZd  
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Analysis of Tolerances .y/NudD  
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File : E:\光学设计资料\zemax练习\f500.ZMX ;o~+2Fir  
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Date : TUE JUN 21 2011 3B!&ow<rt  
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Units are Millimeters. ~:P8g<w  
All changes are computed using linear differences. Zi[{\7a  
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Paraxial Focus compensation only. S0Rf>Eo4  
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WARNING: Solves should be removed prior to tolerancing. 3iwoMrp  
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Mnemonics: }`+^|1  
TFRN: Tolerance on curvature in fringes. Cu)%s  
TTHI: Tolerance on thickness. [9YlLL@  
TSDX: Tolerance on surface decentering in x. dw{#||  
TSDY: Tolerance on surface decentering in y. D@sx`H(  
TSTX: Tolerance on surface tilt in x (degrees). eMpEFY  
TSTY: Tolerance on surface tilt in y (degrees). cpr{b8Xb8&  
TIRR: Tolerance on irregularity (fringes). n]6}yJJo  
TIND: Tolerance on Nd index of refraction. qH {8n`  
TEDX: Tolerance on element decentering in x. aPY>fy^8D  
TEDY: Tolerance on element decentering in y. c'TiWZP~  
TETX: Tolerance on element tilt in x (degrees). k#IS ,NKE  
TETY: Tolerance on element tilt in y (degrees). M<M# < kD  
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WARNING: RAY AIMING IS OFF. Very loose tolerances may not be computed accurately. OI]K_ m3  
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WARNING: Boundary constraints on compensators will be ignored. M'>D[5;N~  
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Criterion           : Geometric MTF average S&T at 30.0000 cycles per mm , $D&WH  
Mode                : Sensitivities r[UyI3(i^  
Sampling            : 2 (to/9OrG  
Nominal Criterion   : 0.54403234 Z CQt1;  
Test Wavelength     : 0.6328 0T{c:m~QXe  
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Fields: XY Symmetric Angle in degrees ,XBV}y  
#      X-Field      Y-Field       Weight    VDX    VDY    VCX    VCY QBPvGnb  
1   0.000E+000   0.000E+000   1.000E+000  0.000  0.000  0.000  0.000 0Z1H6qn  
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Sensitivity Analysis: |Ad6~E+aL-  
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                 |----------------- Minimum ----------------| |----------------- Maximum ----------------| qqz,~EhC  
Type                      Value      Criterion        Change          Value      Criterion        Change t7*H8  
Fringe tolerance on surface 1 @dT: 1s  
TFRN   1            -1.00000000     0.54257256    -0.00145977     1.00000000     0.54548607     0.00145374 yTq(x4]  
Change in Focus                :      -0.000000                            0.000000 s:m<(8WRw  
Fringe tolerance on surface 2 NbdMec  
TFRN   2            -1.00000000     0.54177471    -0.00225762     1.00000000     0.54627463     0.00224230 ^*?B)D=,  
Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 3 q.[-.q  
Fringe tolerance on surface 3 _?(hWC"0  
TFRN   3            -1.00000000     0.54779866     0.00376632     1.00000000     0.54022572    -0.00380662 \$~oH3m&  
Change in Focus                :      -0.000000                            0.000000 gQk#l\w _  
Thickness tolerance on surface 1 o,''f_tRQ|  
TTHI   1   3        -0.20000000     0.54321462    -0.00081772     0.20000000     0.54484759     0.00081525 qeK  
Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 Z 9 q{r s  
Thickness tolerance on surface 2 $E9daUt8"J  
TTHI   2   3        -0.20000000     0.54478712     0.00075478     0.20000000     0.54327558    -0.00075675 x4HMT/@AG2  
Change in Focus                :       0.000000                           -0.000000 WT ~dA95  
Decenter X tolerance on surfaces 1 through 3 G(|(y=ck  
TEDX   1   3        -0.20000000     0.54401464   -1.7700E-005     0.20000000     0.54401464   -1.7700E-005 p$b= r+1f  
Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 K^cWj_a"  
Decenter Y tolerance on surfaces 1 through 3 EB3o8  
TEDY   1   3        -0.20000000     0.54401464   -1.7700E-005     0.20000000     0.54401464   -1.7700E-005 I$6 f.W  
Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 +v[$lh+  
Tilt X tolerance on surfaces 1 through 3 (degrees) \Q?|gfJH  
TETX   1   3        -0.20000000     0.54897548     0.00494314     0.20000000     0.54897548     0.00494314 < jocfTBk  
Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 m^oi4mV  
Tilt Y tolerance on surfaces 1 through 3 (degrees) <*(UvOQuX  
TETY   1   3        -0.20000000     0.54897548     0.00494314     0.20000000     0.54897548     0.00494314 ZTPOD.:#  
Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 A*26'  
Decenter X tolerance on surface 1 X5oW[  
TSDX   1            -0.20000000     0.53999563    -0.00403671     0.20000000     0.53999563    -0.00403671 l]kl V+9t  
Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 <{z3p:\  
Decenter Y tolerance on surface 1 9snyX7/!L  
TSDY   1            -0.20000000     0.53999563    -0.00403671     0.20000000     0.53999563    -0.00403671 J%O4IcE  
Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 LN3dp?;_{  
Tilt X tolerance on surface (degrees) 1 3RH# e1Y  
TSTX   1            -0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851     0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851 s*~jvL  
Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 U0bE B  
Tilt Y tolerance on surface (degrees) 1 ,w/mk$v  
TSTY   1            -0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851     0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851 18w^7!F?~u  
Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 xMfv&q=k@  
Decenter X tolerance on surface 2 ]R0A{+]n  
TSDX   2            -0.20000000     0.51705427    -0.02697807     0.20000000     0.51705427    -0.02697807 [TfV2j* e  
Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 |`t!aG8  
Decenter Y tolerance on surface 2 W!4V: (T  
TSDY   2            -0.20000000     0.51705427    -0.02697807     0.20000000     0.51705427    -0.02697807 Mb 2 L32  
Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 4ysdna\+  
Tilt X tolerance on surface (degrees) 2 }vxH)U6$q  
TSTX   2            -0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324     0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324 uSQ>oi]  
Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 \F+o=  
Tilt Y tolerance on surface (degrees) 2 QVRokI`BF  
TSTY   2            -0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324     0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324 ]{6yS9_tuI  
Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 qL;T&h  
Decenter X tolerance on surface 3 G$kwc F'C  
TSDX   3            -0.20000000     0.53419039    -0.00984195     0.20000000     0.53419039    -0.00984195 n\ ',F  
Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 zQj%ds:  
Decenter Y tolerance on surface 3 JQh s=Xg  
TSDY   3            -0.20000000     0.53419039    -0.00984195     0.20000000     0.53419039    -0.00984195 .gkPG'm[  
Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 zf;[nz  
Tilt X tolerance on surface (degrees) 3 )w 8lusa  
TSTX   3            -0.20000000     0.42861670    -0.11541563     0.20000000     0.42861670    -0.11541563 *I1W+W`G  
Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 >8fz ?A  
Tilt Y tolerance on surface (degrees) 3 >0+|0ba  
TSTY   3            -0.20000000     0.42861670    -0.11541563     0.20000000     0.42861670    -0.11541563 A"3&EuvU  
Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 [oN> :  
Irregularity of surface 1 in fringes dVG UhXN6  
TIRR   1            -0.20000000     0.50973587    -0.03429647     0.20000000     0.57333868     0.02930634 v0MOX>`s  
Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000  T[[  
Irregularity of surface 2 in fringes .rB;zA;4S)  
TIRR   2            -0.20000000     0.53400904    -0.01002330     0.20000000     0.55360281     0.00957047 Yg,WdVI&@  
Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 ;@Hi*d[  
Irregularity of surface 3 in fringes #|_UA}Y  
TIRR   3            -0.20000000     0.58078982     0.03675748     0.20000000     0.49904394    -0.04498840 k42ur)pb  
Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 ._8cJf.ae  
Index tolerance on surface 1 ;pyJ O_R[  
TIND   1            -0.00100000     0.52606778    -0.01796456     0.00100000     0.56121811     0.01718578 |mE +f]7$  
Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 @[kM1:G-F{  
Index tolerance on surface 2 ]j$p_s>  
TIND   2            -0.00100000     0.55639086     0.01235852     0.00100000     0.53126361    -0.01276872 [ EID27P  
Change in Focus                :       0.000000                           -0.000000 q.b4m 'J  
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Worst offenders: Tl7:}X<?  
Type                      Value      Criterion        Change Hi" n GH  
TSTY   2            -0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324 v9`B.(Ru  
TSTY   2             0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324 a<"& RnG(  
TSTX   2            -0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324 _xL&sy09t  
TSTX   2             0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324 SF7b1jr  
TSTY   1            -0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851 zUtf&Ih  
TSTY   1             0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851 Yg,lJ!q  
TSTX   1            -0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851 qe"6#@b *|  
TSTX   1             0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851 OmjT`,/  
TSTY   3            -0.20000000     0.42861670    -0.11541563 vMdhNOU  
TSTY   3             0.20000000     0.42861670    -0.11541563 ^W[`##,{Od  
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Estimated Performance Changes based upon Root-Sum-Square method: 7Z~szD  
Nominal MTF                 :     0.54403234 $,zM99  
Estimated change            :    -0.36299231 *`pBQZn05O  
Estimated MTF               :     0.18104003 u2O^3r G-  
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Compensator Statistics: [%,=0P}  
Change in back focus: d?y\~<  
Minimum            :        -0.000000 1nTaKK q  
Maximum            :         0.000000 AbI*/ |sY  
Mean               :        -0.000000 yx;R#8;b.  
Standard Deviation :         0.000000 rZQHB[^3  
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Monte Carlo Analysis: iwjl--)@K  
Number of trials: 20 Wy>\KrA1  
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Initial Statistics: Normal Distribution ?F!J@Xn5  
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  Trial       Criterion        Change OSi9J.]O  
      1     0.42804416    -0.11598818 E^W*'D  
Change in Focus                :      -0.400171 Or) c*.|\  
      2     0.54384387    -0.00018847 $<e .]`R  
Change in Focus                :       1.018470 'wlP`7&Tn  
      3     0.44510003    -0.09893230 #&c;RPac!6  
Change in Focus                :      -0.601922 (Ha}xwA~(  
      4     0.18154684    -0.36248550 |/\1nWD  
Change in Focus                :       0.920681 7{F9b0zwk  
      5     0.28665820    -0.25737414 L=!kDU  
Change in Focus                :       1.253875 58'y~Ou  
      6     0.21263372    -0.33139862 A2_3zrE  
Change in Focus                :      -0.903878 #|h8u`  
      7     0.40051424    -0.14351809 L(P:n-^  
Change in Focus                :      -1.354815 .V:<w~=b  
      8     0.48754161    -0.05649072 [y;ZbfMP|o  
Change in Focus                :       0.215922 PH!B /D5G  
      9     0.40357468    -0.14045766 QO1Gq9  
Change in Focus                :       0.281783 T\CQ  
     10     0.26315315    -0.28087919 Awf = yE:  
Change in Focus                :      -1.048393 q ? TI,  
     11     0.26120585    -0.28282649 6v)eM=   
Change in Focus                :       1.017611 :?6$}GcW  
     12     0.24033815    -0.30369419 vbh#[,lh  
Change in Focus                :      -0.109292 zn$ Ld,  
     13     0.37164046    -0.17239188 r74w[6(  
Change in Focus                :      -0.692430 pFRnPOv  
     14     0.48597489    -0.05805744 T sW6w  
Change in Focus                :      -0.662040 .h^Ld,Chj  
     15     0.21462327    -0.32940907 NVZNQ{  
Change in Focus                :       1.611296 bO3KaOC8N  
     16     0.43378226    -0.11025008 -vAG5x/,  
Change in Focus                :      -0.640081 DI[^H  
     17     0.39321881    -0.15081353 8>;o MM  
Change in Focus                :       0.914906 _!1c.[ \T  
     18     0.20692530    -0.33710703 @|A&\a-"J  
Change in Focus                :       0.801607 @5GP;3T  
     19     0.51374068    -0.03029165 5g7}A`  
Change in Focus                :       0.947293 {j*+:Gj0V  
     20     0.38013374    -0.16389860 *.Hnt\4|  
Change in Focus                :       0.667010 58U[r)/  
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Number of traceable Monte Carlo files generated: 20 qqre d>K  
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Nominal     0.54403234 Q 5TyS8  
Best        0.54384387    Trial     2 Nx z ,/d  
Worst       0.18154684    Trial     4 481u1  
Mean        0.35770970 V t;&2v  
Std Dev     0.11156454 [c )\?MWW  
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Compensator Statistics: vG:,oB}  
Change in back focus: u)>*U'bM  
Minimum            :        -1.354815 B%;+8]  
Maximum            :         1.611296 0k]N%!U  
Mean               :         0.161872 |<icx8hbr  
Standard Deviation :         0.869664 .W:], 5e  
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90% >       0.20977951               sOenR6J<$  
80% >       0.22748071               CMUphS-KE  
50% >       0.38667627               7@]hu^)rry  
20% >       0.46553746               J1MnkxJmpQ  
10% >       0.50064115                R_DQtLI  
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End of Run. Mt0|`=64  
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这就有了些疑问,为什么我选择的补偿器是近轴焦点,而分析结果近轴焦点都不变化??应该是变得。另外最后的蒙特卡洛分析,只有10%的大于0.5(我用的是MTF作为评价方式),可是我设计的MTF如图 C.p*mO&N  
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是大于0.6左右的,难道我按照这个默认的公差来加工的话,只有10%的才可能大于0.5?那太低了啊,请问这该怎么进行进一步处理。或者之前哪有问题 ePdzQsnVe  
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不吝赐教
sansummer 2011-06-21 15:00
我又试了试,原来是得根据上面的结果不断修改公差,放松或者变紧,然后在做公差分析,不断提高蒙特卡罗的结果。但是比如就拿我这个来说,理想是达到30lp处>0.6,那么实际做蒙特卡罗公差分析时,百分之多少以上的MTF是合格的呢?
sansummer 2011-06-22 08:56
90% >       0.20977951                 a)b@en;v  
80% >       0.22748071                 qIp`'.#m  
50% >       0.38667627                 > xw+2<  
20% >       0.46553746                 rR;Om1 -,  
10% >       0.50064115 #y%Ao\~kG  
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最后这个数值是MTF值呢,还是MTF的公差? H8U*oLlc  
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也就是说,这到底是有90%的产品MTF大于0.20977951还是90%的产品的MTF变化量大于0.20977951???   YSmz)YfX9  
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怎么没人啊,大家讨论讨论吗
sansummer 2011-06-23 08:21
没有人啊???
天地大同 2011-06-23 09:35
引用第2楼sansummer于2011-06-22 08:56发表的  : BHYEd}M  
90% >       0.20977951                 umeb&\:8S-  
80% >       0.22748071                 {iv=KF_S_  
50% >       0.38667627                 %/y/,yd  
20% >       0.46553746                 9S^-qQH3}  
10% >       0.50064115 ;I0/zeM%  
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这些数值都是MTF值
天地大同 2011-06-23 09:38
Criterion           : Geometric MTF average S&T at 30.0000 cycles per mm   CT : ac64  
Mode                : Sensitivities (g\'Zw5bk  
Sampling            : 2 _)Ms9RN  
Nominal Criterion   : 0.54403234 W0|?R6|  
Test Wavelength     : 0.6328 6lPGop]js]  
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波长632.8nm 时 mtf 是 0.54403234  没达到0.6
sansummer 2011-06-24 09:37
谢谢。您说的“波长632.8nm 时 mtf 是 0.54403234  没达到0.6”这是一个评价标准吧? MX34qJ9k  
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这个评价标准和我理想的设计结果的0.6有什么联系吗,另外这个 0.54403234  是这么来的?
天地大同 2011-06-24 11:21
你试试把原来的系统波长改成632.8nm,看看Geometric MTF    30 per mm 的mtf值是不是0.54403234
sansummer 2011-06-24 14:30
啊...这倒也是。换了波长的确可能有所变化。另外还有就是如果现在百分比太低,我是否应该考虑把最敏感的公差再紧一些,就会好了?
天地大同 2011-06-28 14:14
恩,多多尝试
sansummer 2011-06-28 15:04
最后一个问题,你的头像怎么换的?哈哈
天地大同 2011-06-28 16:09
是啊  本来没有的  最近刚弄的
sansummer 2011-06-28 18:02
多谢多谢,我也换头像啦
guapiqlh 2011-12-29 09:54
自己看看书不是一样可以解决吗?
雷伽多 2012-02-27 15:15
楼主分享一下学习ZEMAX公差分析的心得吧。我也刚刚学习这块,很是晕,不知怎么入手。看了一些相关资料,总说蒙特卡洛分析可以模拟生产装配的实际情况,我就是不知道他是如何做到的
zhujiehui 2012-02-27 16:32
学习一下啊
雷伽多 2012-03-07 17:37
额。。。请问你把敏感的公差调紧了后,百分比数有所变化吗?我也遇到同样的问题。。。
nanuto 2012-03-09 18:38
好样的
licc 2012-08-04 10:38
好高深
wmh1985 2012-08-06 21:23
楼主 太强大了  能不能讲的 系统一些了 JS4pJe\q  
毛毛虫07 2013-06-21 11:12
请问,公差设置的阿贝偏差应该设置成多少呢?
毛毛虫07 2013-06-21 11:16
天地大同:Criterion           : Geometric MTF average S&T at 30.0000 cycles per mm   7n#0eska,  
Mode                : Sensitivities a+MC[aFr  
Sam .. (2011-06-23 09:38)  k(s3~S2h  
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我们导师说让用蒙特卡罗分析法,是不是skip sensitivity 模式?还有,geom MTF和 diff MTF有什么区别?
zhu1988zi 2013-11-28 15:25
楼主的头像太慎人!
唐千永 2014-04-17 11:22
     公差分析这里 我也不是很清楚 ,学习一下
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一起学习下 KWM.b"WnXr  
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