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sansummer 2011-06-21 13:48

公差分析结果的疑问

我现在在初学zemax的公差分析,找了一个双胶合透镜 AN:s%w2  
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然后添加了默认公差分析,基本没变 9-{+U,3)  
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然后运行分析的结果如下: K<::M3eQ  
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Analysis of Tolerances Mx6 yk,  
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File : E:\光学设计资料\zemax练习\f500.ZMX qonStIP  
Title: Ru#pJb(R  
Date : TUE JUN 21 2011 FIfLDT+Wh  
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Units are Millimeters. W&cs&>F#  
All changes are computed using linear differences. |,`"Omb9+m  
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Paraxial Focus compensation only. $PRd'YdL/  
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WARNING: Solves should be removed prior to tolerancing. v)O].Hd  
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Mnemonics: Tf!6N<dRXR  
TFRN: Tolerance on curvature in fringes. `u_MdB}<x;  
TTHI: Tolerance on thickness. %7`eT^  
TSDX: Tolerance on surface decentering in x. ;PG= 3j_  
TSDY: Tolerance on surface decentering in y. MHt ~ZVH  
TSTX: Tolerance on surface tilt in x (degrees). "2-D[rYZ  
TSTY: Tolerance on surface tilt in y (degrees). 0[d*Z  
TIRR: Tolerance on irregularity (fringes). /^jl||'H,:  
TIND: Tolerance on Nd index of refraction. Z?qLn6y1W  
TEDX: Tolerance on element decentering in x. hP WP6;Z  
TEDY: Tolerance on element decentering in y. /SM 7t_  
TETX: Tolerance on element tilt in x (degrees). H)Me!^@[D  
TETY: Tolerance on element tilt in y (degrees). @N<h`vDa  
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WARNING: RAY AIMING IS OFF. Very loose tolerances may not be computed accurately. qTbc?S46pt  
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WARNING: Boundary constraints on compensators will be ignored. T zS?WYF  
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Criterion           : Geometric MTF average S&T at 30.0000 cycles per mm QX}JQ<8  
Mode                : Sensitivities 4HZXv\$  
Sampling            : 2 R#y"SxD()  
Nominal Criterion   : 0.54403234 9 5j`^M)Q  
Test Wavelength     : 0.6328 6hR ` sE  
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Fields: XY Symmetric Angle in degrees tUOY`]0  
#      X-Field      Y-Field       Weight    VDX    VDY    VCX    VCY lcEK&AtK  
1   0.000E+000   0.000E+000   1.000E+000  0.000  0.000  0.000  0.000 ]gnEo.R  
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Sensitivity Analysis: Z Q*hrgQ  
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                 |----------------- Minimum ----------------| |----------------- Maximum ----------------| m##!sF^k~J  
Type                      Value      Criterion        Change          Value      Criterion        Change `S-%}eUv  
Fringe tolerance on surface 1 uJ0'`Q?6R9  
TFRN   1            -1.00000000     0.54257256    -0.00145977     1.00000000     0.54548607     0.00145374 HrZX~JnTmf  
Change in Focus                :      -0.000000                            0.000000 *CQZ6&^  
Fringe tolerance on surface 2 FAc^[~E  
TFRN   2            -1.00000000     0.54177471    -0.00225762     1.00000000     0.54627463     0.00224230 &M3KJ I0L  
Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 \5j}6Wj  
Fringe tolerance on surface 3 4bw4!z9G  
TFRN   3            -1.00000000     0.54779866     0.00376632     1.00000000     0.54022572    -0.00380662 pJ1\@G  
Change in Focus                :      -0.000000                            0.000000 =<PEvIn  
Thickness tolerance on surface 1 ,UVu.RjXN  
TTHI   1   3        -0.20000000     0.54321462    -0.00081772     0.20000000     0.54484759     0.00081525 %LmsywPPp  
Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 %#&njP  
Thickness tolerance on surface 2 -(lP8Y~gFY  
TTHI   2   3        -0.20000000     0.54478712     0.00075478     0.20000000     0.54327558    -0.00075675 x3U>5F@  
Change in Focus                :       0.000000                           -0.000000 P{n*X  
Decenter X tolerance on surfaces 1 through 3 umnQ$y 0  
TEDX   1   3        -0.20000000     0.54401464   -1.7700E-005     0.20000000     0.54401464   -1.7700E-005 {' 0#<Z  
Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 bd}[X'4d  
Decenter Y tolerance on surfaces 1 through 3 B6Ajcfy  
TEDY   1   3        -0.20000000     0.54401464   -1.7700E-005     0.20000000     0.54401464   -1.7700E-005 $~1mKx]]  
Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 !kb:g]X  
Tilt X tolerance on surfaces 1 through 3 (degrees) c1a$J`  
TETX   1   3        -0.20000000     0.54897548     0.00494314     0.20000000     0.54897548     0.00494314 Tjv'S <  
Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 ]=i('|YG  
Tilt Y tolerance on surfaces 1 through 3 (degrees) :O&jm.2m  
TETY   1   3        -0.20000000     0.54897548     0.00494314     0.20000000     0.54897548     0.00494314 BAvz @H  
Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 88S:E7 $  
Decenter X tolerance on surface 1 PP!-*~F0Jr  
TSDX   1            -0.20000000     0.53999563    -0.00403671     0.20000000     0.53999563    -0.00403671 HIE8@Rv/3  
Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 j6k"%QHf  
Decenter Y tolerance on surface 1 (.Ak*  
TSDY   1            -0.20000000     0.53999563    -0.00403671     0.20000000     0.53999563    -0.00403671 ]i0=3H2  
Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 %-K5sIz  
Tilt X tolerance on surface (degrees) 1 0&Ftx%6%  
TSTX   1            -0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851     0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851 #6D>e~>n  
Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 (jyufHm  
Tilt Y tolerance on surface (degrees) 1 .GNyA DQp  
TSTY   1            -0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851     0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851 b$*2bSdv0<  
Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000  -K8F$\W  
Decenter X tolerance on surface 2 #QcRN?s  
TSDX   2            -0.20000000     0.51705427    -0.02697807     0.20000000     0.51705427    -0.02697807 |nLq 4.  
Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 f.aa@>  
Decenter Y tolerance on surface 2 Oi^cs=}  
TSDY   2            -0.20000000     0.51705427    -0.02697807     0.20000000     0.51705427    -0.02697807 Pn.DeoHme  
Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 j[w=pF,o  
Tilt X tolerance on surface (degrees) 2 0QfDgDX  
TSTX   2            -0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324     0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324 gdqBT]j  
Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 52#6uBe  
Tilt Y tolerance on surface (degrees) 2 <,/7:n  
TSTY   2            -0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324     0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324 c[ 0`8s!  
Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 _Ds,91<muQ  
Decenter X tolerance on surface 3 /2/aMF(J  
TSDX   3            -0.20000000     0.53419039    -0.00984195     0.20000000     0.53419039    -0.00984195 bE2O[B  
Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 %t!S 7UD  
Decenter Y tolerance on surface 3 VMJaL}J]  
TSDY   3            -0.20000000     0.53419039    -0.00984195     0.20000000     0.53419039    -0.00984195 (>x05nh  
Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 ^^B_z|;Aa  
Tilt X tolerance on surface (degrees) 3 ;]>)6  
TSTX   3            -0.20000000     0.42861670    -0.11541563     0.20000000     0.42861670    -0.11541563 >!']w{G  
Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 -+Yark  
Tilt Y tolerance on surface (degrees) 3 &s?uMWR  
TSTY   3            -0.20000000     0.42861670    -0.11541563     0.20000000     0.42861670    -0.11541563 |%F4`gz8KP  
Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 $Q'z9ghEg  
Irregularity of surface 1 in fringes L'aB/5_%  
TIRR   1            -0.20000000     0.50973587    -0.03429647     0.20000000     0.57333868     0.02930634 ly6zz|c5  
Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 HOPy&Fp  
Irregularity of surface 2 in fringes VX8CEO  
TIRR   2            -0.20000000     0.53400904    -0.01002330     0.20000000     0.55360281     0.00957047 |Z2"pV  
Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 yx4pQL7  
Irregularity of surface 3 in fringes N#e9w3Rli  
TIRR   3            -0.20000000     0.58078982     0.03675748     0.20000000     0.49904394    -0.04498840 hqjjd-S0  
Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 G![4K#~NM  
Index tolerance on surface 1 jg{2Sxf!c  
TIND   1            -0.00100000     0.52606778    -0.01796456     0.00100000     0.56121811     0.01718578 ~re}6-?  
Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 VzHrKI  
Index tolerance on surface 2 qs bo"29  
TIND   2            -0.00100000     0.55639086     0.01235852     0.00100000     0.53126361    -0.01276872 m0v .[61  
Change in Focus                :       0.000000                           -0.000000 6g" h}p\{S  
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Worst offenders: P\6:euI  
Type                      Value      Criterion        Change 0wV9Trp  
TSTY   2            -0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324 Zxqlhq/)  
TSTY   2             0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324 &<uLr *+*  
TSTX   2            -0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324 8uH8)  
TSTX   2             0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324 Avi_]h&  
TSTY   1            -0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851 `G`R|B  
TSTY   1             0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851 62_k`)k  
TSTX   1            -0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851 eXK3W2XF  
TSTX   1             0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851 Xz)F-C27h  
TSTY   3            -0.20000000     0.42861670    -0.11541563 /Qr`au  
TSTY   3             0.20000000     0.42861670    -0.11541563 5<v1v&  
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Estimated Performance Changes based upon Root-Sum-Square method: Vym0|cW  
Nominal MTF                 :     0.54403234 ivq(eKy  
Estimated change            :    -0.36299231 ku]?"{Xx  
Estimated MTF               :     0.18104003 V|sV U  
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Compensator Statistics: "P(obk  
Change in back focus: y'4Qt.1ukN  
Minimum            :        -0.000000 )qbkKCq/FB  
Maximum            :         0.000000 K@cWg C  
Mean               :        -0.000000 7/QK"0  
Standard Deviation :         0.000000 E JuTv%Y8  
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Monte Carlo Analysis: BYM6cp+S  
Number of trials: 20 L_vl%ii-  
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Initial Statistics: Normal Distribution pl1CPxSdO  
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  Trial       Criterion        Change ^4"AWps  
      1     0.42804416    -0.11598818 YkB@fTTS  
Change in Focus                :      -0.400171 _\tv ${  
      2     0.54384387    -0.00018847 w@cW`PlF  
Change in Focus                :       1.018470 xt,Qn460;  
      3     0.44510003    -0.09893230 VlA]A,P}i  
Change in Focus                :      -0.601922 JOt(r}gU  
      4     0.18154684    -0.36248550 !f52JQyh  
Change in Focus                :       0.920681  w0=  
      5     0.28665820    -0.25737414 pUqC88*j  
Change in Focus                :       1.253875 LAf#Rco4  
      6     0.21263372    -0.33139862 6Nn+7z<*&z  
Change in Focus                :      -0.903878 msfE;  
      7     0.40051424    -0.14351809 3lpxh_  
Change in Focus                :      -1.354815 C,l,fT  
      8     0.48754161    -0.05649072 ?%Nh4+3N>  
Change in Focus                :       0.215922 sV%DX5@  
      9     0.40357468    -0.14045766 4FRi=d;mP  
Change in Focus                :       0.281783 *{fs{gFw9  
     10     0.26315315    -0.28087919 4l %W]'  
Change in Focus                :      -1.048393 QtKcv7:4  
     11     0.26120585    -0.28282649 ,7)hrA$(  
Change in Focus                :       1.017611 EC,`t*<  
     12     0.24033815    -0.30369419 5{V"!M+<  
Change in Focus                :      -0.109292 }p2iF2g9`  
     13     0.37164046    -0.17239188 !KK`+ 9/  
Change in Focus                :      -0.692430 T&]-p:mg^  
     14     0.48597489    -0.05805744 vFR *3$ R  
Change in Focus                :      -0.662040 Kh$"5dy  
     15     0.21462327    -0.32940907 d8jH?P-"  
Change in Focus                :       1.611296 #c@&mus  
     16     0.43378226    -0.11025008 eZT8gKbjJ)  
Change in Focus                :      -0.640081 ;n(f?RO3X  
     17     0.39321881    -0.15081353 ZuGd{p$  
Change in Focus                :       0.914906 <nbk lo  
     18     0.20692530    -0.33710703 * CR#D}F  
Change in Focus                :       0.801607 /CsP@f_Gw  
     19     0.51374068    -0.03029165 ,k4pW&A  
Change in Focus                :       0.947293 Y#68_%[  
     20     0.38013374    -0.16389860 ={P`Tve  
Change in Focus                :       0.667010 0!dNW,NfJ  
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Number of traceable Monte Carlo files generated: 20 ~KS@Ulrox  
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Nominal     0.54403234 sS}:Od  
Best        0.54384387    Trial     2 wX]$xZ!s  
Worst       0.18154684    Trial     4 23^>#b7st  
Mean        0.35770970 a#r{FoU{M8  
Std Dev     0.11156454 VmPh''Z%-  
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Compensator Statistics: )x/#sW%)  
Change in back focus: R~oJ-} iYX  
Minimum            :        -1.354815 cHFW"g78  
Maximum            :         1.611296 d0I s|Gs  
Mean               :         0.161872 tf6m .  
Standard Deviation :         0.869664 {\1bWr8!U  
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90% >       0.20977951               ,6g{-r-2  
80% >       0.22748071               :zKW[sF  
50% >       0.38667627               +-|""`I1I  
20% >       0.46553746               KZ7B2  
10% >       0.50064115                I8J>>H'#A  
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End of Run. :V+rC]0  
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这就有了些疑问,为什么我选择的补偿器是近轴焦点,而分析结果近轴焦点都不变化??应该是变得。另外最后的蒙特卡洛分析,只有10%的大于0.5(我用的是MTF作为评价方式),可是我设计的MTF如图 6L8nw+mEK  
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是大于0.6左右的,难道我按照这个默认的公差来加工的话,只有10%的才可能大于0.5?那太低了啊,请问这该怎么进行进一步处理。或者之前哪有问题 / =6_2t#vA  
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不吝赐教
sansummer 2011-06-21 15:00
我又试了试,原来是得根据上面的结果不断修改公差,放松或者变紧,然后在做公差分析,不断提高蒙特卡罗的结果。但是比如就拿我这个来说,理想是达到30lp处>0.6,那么实际做蒙特卡罗公差分析时,百分之多少以上的MTF是合格的呢?
sansummer 2011-06-22 08:56
90% >       0.20977951                 3pWav 1"  
80% >       0.22748071                 ct-Bq  
50% >       0.38667627                 f<bB= 9J  
20% >       0.46553746                 *g+ ZXB  
10% >       0.50064115 > "F-1{  
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最后这个数值是MTF值呢,还是MTF的公差? HU?1>}4L  
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也就是说,这到底是有90%的产品MTF大于0.20977951还是90%的产品的MTF变化量大于0.20977951???   j_90iP^5:  
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怎么没人啊,大家讨论讨论吗
sansummer 2011-06-23 08:21
没有人啊???
天地大同 2011-06-23 09:35
引用第2楼sansummer于2011-06-22 08:56发表的  : JR `$t~0t  
90% >       0.20977951                 >|%3j,<U  
80% >       0.22748071                 D1y`J&A>Q  
50% >       0.38667627                 Fya*[)HBo  
20% >       0.46553746                  ri4z^1\  
10% >       0.50064115 ?=Ceo#Er  
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这些数值都是MTF值
天地大同 2011-06-23 09:38
Criterion           : Geometric MTF average S&T at 30.0000 cycles per mm   V $I8iVGL  
Mode                : Sensitivities ~ `}),aA  
Sampling            : 2 | I:@:  
Nominal Criterion   : 0.54403234 #:BkDidt2v  
Test Wavelength     : 0.6328 $#f_p-N  
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波长632.8nm 时 mtf 是 0.54403234  没达到0.6
sansummer 2011-06-24 09:37
谢谢。您说的“波长632.8nm 时 mtf 是 0.54403234  没达到0.6”这是一个评价标准吧? >Du=(pB  
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这个评价标准和我理想的设计结果的0.6有什么联系吗,另外这个 0.54403234  是这么来的?
天地大同 2011-06-24 11:21
你试试把原来的系统波长改成632.8nm,看看Geometric MTF    30 per mm 的mtf值是不是0.54403234
sansummer 2011-06-24 14:30
啊...这倒也是。换了波长的确可能有所变化。另外还有就是如果现在百分比太低,我是否应该考虑把最敏感的公差再紧一些,就会好了?
天地大同 2011-06-28 14:14
恩,多多尝试
sansummer 2011-06-28 15:04
最后一个问题,你的头像怎么换的?哈哈
天地大同 2011-06-28 16:09
是啊  本来没有的  最近刚弄的
sansummer 2011-06-28 18:02
多谢多谢,我也换头像啦
guapiqlh 2011-12-29 09:54
自己看看书不是一样可以解决吗?
雷伽多 2012-02-27 15:15
楼主分享一下学习ZEMAX公差分析的心得吧。我也刚刚学习这块,很是晕,不知怎么入手。看了一些相关资料,总说蒙特卡洛分析可以模拟生产装配的实际情况,我就是不知道他是如何做到的
zhujiehui 2012-02-27 16:32
学习一下啊
雷伽多 2012-03-07 17:37
额。。。请问你把敏感的公差调紧了后,百分比数有所变化吗?我也遇到同样的问题。。。
nanuto 2012-03-09 18:38
好样的
licc 2012-08-04 10:38
好高深
wmh1985 2012-08-06 21:23
楼主 太强大了  能不能讲的 系统一些了 |oU I2<"  
毛毛虫07 2013-06-21 11:12
请问,公差设置的阿贝偏差应该设置成多少呢?
毛毛虫07 2013-06-21 11:16
天地大同:Criterion           : Geometric MTF average S&T at 30.0000 cycles per mm   :k ?`gm$  
Mode                : Sensitivities V  H`_  
Sam .. (2011-06-23 09:38)  +`wr{kB$~  
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我们导师说让用蒙特卡罗分析法,是不是skip sensitivity 模式?还有,geom MTF和 diff MTF有什么区别?
zhu1988zi 2013-11-28 15:25
楼主的头像太慎人!
唐千永 2014-04-17 11:22
     公差分析这里 我也不是很清楚 ,学习一下
nd871693070 2020-03-19 10:47
一起学习下 \mu';[gLd  
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